Does WoW have a faster pace than FFXIV?

[Razard]

Thats why only a few people have (im one of those) the "Ahead of the Curve: G'huun" achieve.

But dont worry, "the game plays for you", hahahaha. Im sure you would make it easily, ma man.

Yaaawn I don't care about your baby achievements for babies.

Don't worry little scamp. I'm sure the big letters flashing on the screen telling you "Don't step in the fire" where a big help, honest.

No different than when I join statics and people configure bots to tell them what to do on Discord. I don't like it. I don't like being told what to do or where to go. I use BDM for timer's and that's it. All that shouting and alerts and what not, is not a staple of raiding. It's an option to use it or not. More than half of my guild, apparently hasn't used raiding mods for the 3 years I've been raid leading our raids.

Quite an over exaggeration.

I want to not defend World of Warcraft because I hate the rut it is in now in retail but the posts I am seeing, are making it difficult not to.

That's not a rebuttal. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

[Shurrikhan]

WoW's gameplay is completely full of randomness and bugs "Running as intended" and attack motions or timers make little to no sense.
FFXIV is methodical and thought.
WoW is keyboard smashing 4 keys because that's all you have since the prunes.

There's no more randomness there than here. The attack timers and AoE zonal indicators no more inconsistent than here.

Prepositioning is just as important there, even if there may be a little more to force you from memorizing the exact positions, down to the second, to optimally be in over the course of a fight.

...And yet I have... more keys on my main WoW spec (27) than most of my XIV jobs actually utilize? And their order isn't prescripted into 1234567854 Dragoon combos and the like, but instead follows dynamic modifiers and tactical gambles? Not that it particularly matters. Bloat isn't exactly worth boasting about in either game.

I love XIV and all, but you're off on most marks here.

I'm sure the big letters flashing on the screen telling you "Don't step in the fire" where a big help, honest.

Because obscuring your own UI would be so much more useful than just... seeing the fire already covering the floor?

[Siete]

WoW's gameplay is completely full of randomness and bugs "Running as intended" and attack motions or timers make little to no sense.
FFXIV is methodical and thought.
WoW is keyboard smashing 4 keys because that's all you have since the prunes.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Used to raid on WoW back in Wrath of the Lich King. The fights were just as scripted as they are here, really, they just leaned more towards gimmicks than big AoE circles and cones. Can't really speak for how it went after that, since my guild collapsed in a black hole of drama and I never bothered to get back into it again beyond LFR and quit in early Legion.

[linay]

The AoEs being mentioned here are controlled to a degree depending on your raid composition. For example, some mechanics are given to DPS. Usually those mechanics are given to either melee DPS or range DPS. It's quite controlled and you know who is going to get it generally if you're not doing something weird. The only time this rule is broken consistently is during Mythic raiding, where knowing everything of a fight and reacting to it is standard.

The randomness for raiding is actually quite controlled outside of Mythic, depending on the encounter.

Sure, there is a bit of control, and that's what makes them tolerable. And, for the most part, it's easy enough to dodge AOEs. It still doesn't make some AOEs in WoW any less annoying, particularly those swirly AOEs that come in succession for a set period of time.

[Omymy]

If you wanna defend FFXIV dont talk about PvP, i mean... You are shooting your own foot.

[Angus-Beef]

And by boss tells you mean "Listen out for the add on Call Out to avoid the random insta-death aoe that was put in because the game is so swamped with mods that essentially play the game for you it's the only way to make the game challenging"

Or the WoW Modding Arms Race as I like to call it.

Odd because there are so many people who raid in wow who don't even used add-ons for call outs due to it not being hard to pay attention. as for Insta death there are none within the game for raidingat the rate FF has them, FF on the other hand has a lot of those and only 2-5% of the player base has enough brain cells to do the fights that have them. If you're gonna try to shit on another game At least look at how it functions vs how the game you're defending functions.

Also ACT, Cactbot, And people botting entire fights in FF in comparison to Bizz Devs realizing a fight needs to be more challenging over making content easier And people still do full clears without DBm or Big wigs. Yet in FF they've nerf'd the majority of content and again, people still can't do it without Echo.

[Angus-Beef]

Sure, if the tells are clear as tells are simply part of a fight script. That's not the case with the AOEs I'm talking about.

I feel it's a lack of paying attention to the fight, it's not hard to dodge. But again if ur happy with a fully scripted fights that's what's fun for you.

[linay]

I feel it's a lack of paying attention to the fight, it's not hard to dodge. But again if ur happy with a fully scripted fights that's what's fun for you.

I didn't say anything about difficulty, just annoyance. It's not fun and I play to have fun, and yes, a scripted fight is fun for me.

[Angus-Beef]

Ok then play FF to have your fun. What you find annoying is an opinion and is ultimately subjective to the fact that the whole of both games have pros and cons to what make them fun or not for those playing.