Deep dungeons seem like an alt-job leveling superhighway! Are they?

[HyoMinPark]

It would be more efficient in terms of exp to time spent to go through the cycle of 50-100 if the queues would pop faster because any difficulty increase present is negligable as far as how much time it will take, that's more up to rng which is present on 50-60 just as much as 90-100, and you get increased exp gained for 90-100. The only thing that makes it less efficient is everyone resetting to run 50-60 again, so takes too long to actually get into the later floors. The boss on 100 might take slightly longer to kill then the others, but that's really about the only thing that's more time consuming on the later floors, the main factors that can drag out a run are present just as much on 50-60. Party comp, weapon and armor level of party members, bad rng for floor layout, getting in a party with that one guy that wants to go to every room and open every chest, that stuff is all there on 50-60.

Back when PotD 51-100 first released, people couldn’t do the Floor 90 boss right, much less the Floor 100 boss right. That was likely when it was decided 51-60 was simply more efficient to do, and it’s just stayed that way years later. None of these floors are hard—I’ve said that repeatedly—but 51-60 is the easiest and takes the least amount of time. Path of least resistance, and all that. If 51 to 100 was as efficient or more efficient, people would likely recommend it instead. But the recommendations continue to be 51-60 spam for PotD. Even with that one guy who wants every chest in a party.

My personal recommendation was to mix in dungeons with PotD/HoH because, quite frankly, the deep dungeons lose their novelty really fast and become incredibly monotonous even with going to Floor 100 on occasion. Plus, I don’t think they’re the best place to learn rotations or roles on since they aren’t as traditional as normal dungeons.

Anyways, this derailment has gone on long enough; so I won’t reply any further and continue the tangent. Nice to have discourse, though.

[Omedon]

While I understand what you’re getting at, I was merely just stating the general recommendations for leveling each role the most efficiently. Tanks and healers are generally encouraged to do leveling dungeons because of the faster queues and usually better EXP gain from dungeons; DPS are generally encouraged to use PotD/HoH because DPS queues for the leveling dungeons can be long, so it’s less efficient in terms of time spent. It’s all about making the most efficient use of your time—though I still recommend mixing both dungeons and PotD/HoH for any role to break up monotony.

Right, I get it and I appreciate the recommendation, I wasn't saying otherwise. Thanks for speaking up!

[LaylaTsarra]

I level using roulettes. I don't personally do any of the deep dungeons. I'm also not in a rush to level everything. Don't get me wrong I've leveled quite a few alts with all their roles and am now really just focusing on my main. She is an omni and I'm slowly starting to climb her mountain. I have friends who have rushed to straight 80's and now have nothing much to do and are bored. Just a thought.

I suspect the dungeons are really good for leveling starting roles that begin at level 1.

[FirstnameLastname]

Starting at level 20 you can also use your Adventurers (stationed in the Barracks of your respective Grand Company) to run dungeons. While those dungeon runs usually take a little longer than with real players (NPCs only use single target abilities for instance) it's still way faster as a DPS because there is no q time at all. You can use this up to level 60.

The same starts at level 71 again - this time named "Trusts". Another set of (story relevant this time, I guess?) NPCs that can be used to run all ShB dungeons with no DPS q time at all. There only really is that one major gap between 60 and 71 - but this can be done via HoH as previously stated.

[Iscah]

-It's the third of only three places the armory bonus applies

Did you mean to write "applies" or "doesn't apply"?

The armoury bonus applies to your normal levelling progress - dungeons and field battles - for any class that is not your highest-levelled one, and is not applied in deep dungeons. (Eureka would the 'third thing' if I'm remembering right.)

[LalaRu]

I've never really understood why people insist on only running 50-60 in potd and then reseting...

Higher levels are more rewarding but queue takes much longer, that's only reason.
If you run with full party of friends, you want go past 60.

[Feronar]

@OP: No they're not. Very few people do PotD beyond the 1-30 and 51-60, and literally nobody is doing HoH beyond 1-10, and even 1-10 HoH has stupidly long wait times.

Square-Enix needs to add a duty roulette for deep dungeons. If that is impractical, apply the Echo when entering solo.

[Raltar]

If people didn't reset to 51-60, the queues would be even longer because you'd have people on 61-70, 71-80, 81-90 and 91-100. So everyone just resets to 51-60 so the most people are in queue making queues shorter. It's just better this way. And aside from the boss, all of the floors are basically the exact same garbage over and over and even the bosses aren't that unique.

[Alaeacus]

I've never really understood why people insist on only running 50-60 in potd and then reseting, the later floors aren't really anymore challanging or time consuming, you can still speed through them just about as fast and you get more experience for 90-100. I'd rather have a little more variety and more exp every 5 runs then just doing the same 10 floors over and over.

I agree with you, teams that stop at 60 are kind of dumb because the content is very easy to level 100. If you found a good team, you really should always be going further to maximize experience gain. People follow trends, even if those trends are irrational.

[TaleraRistain]

If people didn't reset to 51-60, the queues would be even longer because you'd have people on 61-70, 71-80, 81-90 and 91-100. So everyone just resets to 51-60 so the most people are in queue making queues shorter. It's just better this way. And aside from the boss, all of the floors are basically the exact same garbage over and over and even the bosses aren't that unique.

^this

You spread the populace over too many sets of floors and that slows down queues.