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    Craft grinding gets tedious.. Needs more automation.

    I'm making Ishgard stuff for scrips for crafting materia.
    Using macros, so it goes: Click - click - wait - click - click - wait - click- click - wait - click - click - wait - wait - click....Zzzzzzzzz

    Even without macros, if you have a routine down that works every time, there's no challenge. Just click the same things over and over again, so you end up just sitting there clicking the same buttons for hours.

    One advantage WoW crafting has over this is that when you have to make many of the same thing, you just set the quantity, and click ONCE. then AFK while it makes them all.. We could that option here, Perhaps with the option to loop and chain macros.
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    Last edited by SamSmoot; 12-21-2019 at 11:21 PM.

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    Well, I do believe there’s a fine line between making crafting more approachable, and just being outright lazy...there’s really no need to make FFXIV and WoW the same game.

    Yoshida will 99% do what you suggested though, lol. 6.0 if I had to guess, along with guaranteed materia melding.
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    Last edited by Nandrolone; 12-22-2019 at 01:22 AM.

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    I dunno. On the one hand, I'm sitting here looking at the 10k+ white scrips I need for my endgame crafter gear and thinking "that's a lot of scrips". But on the other hand, if I could just press one button to receive scrips, there wouldn't be a sense of accomplishment.

    FFXIV does have quick synthesis, but it comes with some (intentional) limitations. You can't quicksynth collectibles, and the chance of getting HQ items is fairly low. It's mostly intended for mass-producing intermediate materials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    One advantage WoW crafting has over this is that when you have to make many of the same thing, you just set the quantity, and click ONCE. then AFK while it makes them all.. We could that option here, Perhaps with the option to loop and chain macros.
    You have that advantage here. The vast majority of items allow for quick synthesis. Stick to making those items if you don't want to have to use a rotation.

    WoW's crafting was a joke because of that one click then done design for everything, even back when crafted items still had some relevance in Vanilla and BC. We definitely don't need SE to turn the crafting here into the same joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
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    Perhaps with the option to loop and chain macros.
    Recursive macros are about as good as botting. There are good reasons we don't have them.
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    You could also save a lot of time and money by playing another game if you don't actually want to play this. Cookie clicker is still around for that instant gratification in one click, I believe. No subscription fee.
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    Quick Synthing collectables??? No thank you. Macro's are good enough quick synth is for when Quality or collectablity are not a concern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadygrove View Post
    Recursive macros are about as good as botting. There are good reasons we don't have them.
    In all seriousness, if they aren't actually going to bother enforcing DoH botting I'd be all for having recursive macros especially now that they're adding a competitive aspect to crafting with the Ishgard Restoration in 5.2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadygrove View Post
    Recursive macros are about as good as botting. There are good reasons we don't have them.
    Then, perhaps a change to Quick Synth. After you've made 10 of an item in a row, you get the option to QS any number of them by repeating the same actions you used previously.
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    Kind of how it is. The challenge, such as it is, is in making macros and optimizing them, even though it is much easier to do so now. Or if you are manually crafting, taking advantage of good/excellent procs.

    I can't see them reducing the time, and I also think complete afk crafting is unlikely as it changes the nature of the game too much when you can play in a completely automated fashion for hours without even having to press any buttons after the first one. But I agree you can already afk and watch netflix and just press the button again every time your controller chirps.
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