Feast Without Wolf Collars

[Alaeacus]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/002914.html

Feast was just announced and they are not rewarding Wolf Collars. There is a mount reward for Top 100 of the DATACENTER(?) and a Trophy for the very top players. I don't know about you, but I'm not going to waste my time in content for a .01% chance I make Top 100 over potentially tens of thousands of players. There are just WAY too many other activities in this game that are more rewarding for my time, and I'm sure the majority of the player-base thinks the same way. No consolation prize = low participation. SE must know this right? Correct me if I have my data wrong.

At the very least they could give us Wolf Collars toward the next Feast Season, or allow us to buy past rewards.

Does conversation in this forum ever reach SE? I ask because I don't know.

[Nalien]

I'm really curious how a reward which has been in place since 4.0 is suddenly not ready in time for 5.18.

That's some next level SEing.

[Bright-Flower]

I'm really curious how a reward which has been in place since 4.0 is suddenly not ready in time for 5.18.

That's some next level SEing.

"However, as we were unable to prepare certain rewards in time, please keep in mind that the Wolf Collars, previously awarded to the Top 10 and as ranking tier rewards, will not be obtainable."

Sounds to me like they have new rewards for the wolf collars planned but they weren't done yet, hence not giving out the currency to buy the rewards that aren't ready yet.

[Nalien]

"However, as we were unable to prepare certain rewards in time, please keep in mind that the Wolf Collars, previously awarded to the Top 10 and as ranking tier rewards, will not be obtainable."

Sounds to me like they have new rewards for the wolf collars planned but they weren't done yet, hence not giving out the currency to buy the rewards that aren't ready yet.

But... Wolf Collars have been a reward for an entire expansion, with pre-existing rewards... Why would you proceed to not give those out because new rewards aren't ready yet? That makes zero sense.

That's like removing Goetia Tomestones as a reward from everything PvE side just because new items to purchase with them aren't ready for 5.1. They were already a reward before hand, with associated items to purchase.

Also, unless I'm mistaken, Wolf Collars aren't even rewarded until the end of season? So rewards not being ready for 5.18 means little, they just need to be ready for 5.2 (or whenever the next season ends). Perhaps this is just SE trying to cover their ass and they'll aim to get them ready for 5.2 all the same, but boy does it look stupid to me... The system for these rewards has been in place for over two years, now people get nothing because new rewards aren't ready? Just give them the same wolf collars with the same weapon rewards as before... Absolutely no reason to remove the participation reward like this...

[SturmChurro]

"However, as we were unable to prepare certain rewards in time, please keep in mind that the Wolf Collars, previously awarded to the Top 10 and as ranking tier rewards, will not be obtainable."

Sounds to me like they have new rewards for the wolf collars planned but they weren't done yet, hence not giving out the currency to buy the rewards that aren't ready yet.

I guess they really can't spare any time to get anything done fully.

[Nalien]

I guess they really can't spare any time to get anything done fully.

Hopefully Shadowbringers is all just a case of Yoshida playing 4D Chess with the SE moneybags. They really are displaying just how understaffed they apparently are this expansion... Probably a fools dream to ever imagine SE giving this game the funding it deserves though...

Seriously though, can someone from SE please explain... How do you fail to implement something that's already implemented? Wolf Collars are just a currency... They're in place already, the whole system for rewarding them has been set up for years... Adding new things to buy with it? Great, why do we need them removed because of a delay there though? They're a currency, just add the new reward to buy with them later... Adding something to replace it? Not so great for reasons I wont bother touching on yet, but again... Why remove the old system now then... Old Wolf Collars for this season is better than nothing at all because the New Wolf Collars aren't ready, surely? Why have nothing when you already had something perfectly fine set up... I don't even need to touch on how hilarious it is that you ignore Feast for 6 months and somehow failed to prepare the reward (were I one to care, I'd be getting real Eureka delay vibes here... the wait will surely be worth it this time, right ), this whole thing is just bizarre all on its own... Something which has been in place for over two years suddenly isn't ready for release? Did a dev accidentally delete some spaghetti or something?

[AugustI]

I really hope this is a temporary or one-time thing. Getting wolf collars at the end of a PvP season is quite literally the only reason for me to invest -any- time in it.
I'm not going to destroy myself to try and get in the top 100 again.

[Theodric]

I always assumed that wolf collars were meant as a consolation prize, so that if someone didn't place in the list of top players on their datacentre then they'd at least walk away with something. It's disappointing since I'm after one of the weapons that are only obtainable through exchanging wolf collars and I've been waiting quite a while for the season to start...

[BloodRubyXII]

"Tens of thousand of players"

Lmfao good one buddy we wish - there's probably around 200-300 individual players TOPS that queue feast over the course of a season, and about 30 active maximum in the dying embers of the season. As long as you don't have the IQ of pure excrement and can hit buttons the matchmaking system supports you to at least Platinum, even if you lose a large portion of your games. The only portion of the playerbase that agrees with you are those that like having rewards for minimal effort possible, and Feast isn't even that much effort, common sense is practically the sole requirement for getting Diamond, the majority of people in top 100 absolutely blow, and the ones that don't get there; it's less about them being bad at PvP and more about them just being stupid. Also it's funny you should mention playerbase size, there's a reason we want the EU DCs merged back together, which you opposed despite not even playing on EU. It literally cut our already tiny PvP community in half, and unlike NA players we don't have 100 alts between us.

[Alaeacus]

Also it's funny you should mention playerbase size, there's a reason we want the EU DCs merged back together, which you opposed despite not even playing on EU. It literally cut our already tiny PvP community in half, and unlike NA players we don't have 100 alts between us.

Huh? You might want to reread my comments about EU datacenter. I didn't oppose EU being merged. I literally criticized people who were opposed and mentioned that they mostly had bad reasons to be against merging together. I said "More people = faster queues". Did you confuse me with someone else in that thread? I quoted my only comment below and it is the OPPOSITE of opposed:

I'm not in EU but the only responses I see against this idea, seem to be against it for purely biased reasons. Probably some flawed opinion on the "reputation" of some worlds in the Chaos data center.

It's the same thing for the U.S. data centers. People keep parroting the "Aether=Raid, Primal=Casual, Crystal=Gross ERP" idea. In reality, all these people are the same. In fact, I just recently moved from Gilgamesh (the so-called raid central of Aether) over to Excalibur (Primal), and Primal's PF is twice the size of Aether's every night (including Static parties) and the zones are far more lively.

It's so stupid, these reputations are almost never founded in truth. People are so eager to form teams and begin their "us versus them" rhetoric. Fact: More people = Larger pool to play with.

P.S. I have seen the report showing Aether has more clears of hard content than Primal but to be honest, it's not THAT much more.