Changes to subtarget.

[Rukkirii]

Hey everyone!

Based on the feedback we’ve been receiving, will be looking into the following targeting changes to subtarget:

• Defeated opponents cannot be targeted, regardless of whether subtarget is ON or OFF.
• Defeated party members can be targeted, even if subtarget is OFF.

Please feel free to discuss these changes in this thread!

[Peptaru]

I love the idea of defeated opponents being untargettable, that is no longer useful with siphon mp gone. As for targetting defeated party members i see it as a triviality, raise targets them just fine and i don't need to emote at dead people.

[Garlen]

Yes, these changes are much needed, I keep targeting enemies that have already been killed off.

[Antanias]

Yes, these changes are much needed, I keep targeting enemies that have already been killed off.

Agreed, now if only we can lose the ability to target things that are very far away

[Mister-Wonderful]

Is there ever going to be a fix to when Subtargeting is off and you are targeted on an enemy and attempt to cure yourself? As it stands now you have to change the target back to yourself just to cure, then back to the target to resume attacking, making subtarget off more of a nuisance than anything.

[SirOleas]

How about we get a fix for targeting mobs on the other side of the map when you have a group of mobs right in front of you? Seriously.

[Ava]

The biggest issue for me is having to change target completely when you're fighting a monster. Like, for example, if I am playing Conjurer (or WHM), and I am soloing monsters using my offensive spells, with subtarget off I can't press cure to heal myself, I have to completely switch off my target to cure.

My proposed change would be: If you are using friendly spells (cure, buffs, cover, etc) and your primary target is either NOTHING or ENEMY and subtarget is off, you will get a subtarget cursor so you can keep your current target selected. I feel like this change was intended primarily for healers, but also for nukers, and because of this problem I cannot use it.

[Mychael]

The biggest issue for me is having to change target completely when you're fighting a monster. Like, for example, if I am playing Conjurer (or WHM), and I am soloing monsters using my offensive spells, with subtarget off I can't press cure to heal myself, I have to completely switch off my target to cure.

My proposed change would be: If you are using friendly spells (cure, buffs, cover, etc) and your primary target is either NOTHING or ENEMY and subtarget is off, you will get a subtarget cursor so you can keep your current target selected. I feel like this change was intended primarily for healers, but also for nukers, and because of this problem I cannot use it.

Not that this is a "fix," but as a workaround, you can do it like I used to--keep offensive abilities on the action bar and put cure/cura, stoneskin, and maybe protect into <stpc> macros. ^^;

[Akira_Tenshi]

This wouldn't solve the issue that it is difficult to heal yourself with sub targetting off.

[Rowyne]

The biggest issue for me is having to change target completely when you're fighting a monster. Like, for example, if I am playing Conjurer (or WHM), and I am soloing monsters using my offensive spells, with subtarget off I can't press cure to heal myself, I have to completely switch off my target to cure.

My proposed change would be: If you are using friendly spells (cure, buffs, cover, etc) and your primary target is either NOTHING or ENEMY and subtarget is off, you will get a subtarget cursor so you can keep your current target selected. I feel like this change was intended primarily for healers, but also for nukers, and because of this problem I cannot use it.

The way WoW handles this is a configuration setting you can turn on/off called auto self-cast. If you cast a beneficial spell on an invalid target (enemy or no target), it will automatically cast on yourself. I would love to see this in FFXIV.