Recent Developments of TOS Actions Taken

[Vnolan]

This has less to do with why a streamer was banned and more to do with the fact that SE deciding to extend their enforcement outside of the game itself has raised a grey area on what is/isn't punsihable.

If it's against the ToS and SE has proof that meets their standards, it's punishable.

From last month:
If SE's banning dataminers, can they finally go after RMT in PF?

There was also the nude mod thing earlier in the year.

I don't think it can be said with absolute certainty that the simple "Don't be a jerk" rule is going to protect someone that's doing something that's technically against the ToS like using a parser anymore.

Has anyone been suspended or banned for using a parser on stream?

If someone, say, kicks someone for doing low DPS, but doesn't state such in-game, nor do they actually say anything negative on stream, would they still be safe if the "victim" saw that they were using a parser to determine that they were underperforming and decided to remove them because of it?

Yes. You can already remove underperformers from your party without having to use a parser.

Are you not allowed to say anything offensive about someone on stream at all now?

It was never allowed.

If they are willing to enforce such things now, they should just come out and make a clear statement about it instead of having double standards and cherry-picking incidents. It's the lack of consistency that's the biggest issue overall.

The PF ads have been up for years and are visible to thousands of players in-game each day. They have not commented on that, so why would they comment on this? Lack of consistency will only become a problem if it can be proven they look the other way for some players or hold a grudge against others.

It's possible they only act in some instances based on the source of the evidence. If that's the case, they definitely won't say as much.

In a way, this topic has devolved to: "Parsers bad" and "Just don't be a jerk = Carry me". Any other implication or talking point is ignored.

There are only two:
1. Potential for improper suspension - Same hysteria was seen with the ToS revision and I haven't heard of anyone getting in trouble for providing advice without insulting. If a streamer getting in trouble for parse shaming on their stream blew up, imagine if someone received a suspension for asking someone to AoE or to use damaging spells.

2. SE needs to be consistent with their ToS enforcement - If there are no tangible downsides to it (loss of subs, money), why should they care? It's been business as usual for the past several years and they've had nothing but an increase in subs and good reviews. That's not going to change because they decided to enforce some rules here and there.

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You won't get any answers to that as it would let players know how to avoid detection. One reason why the STF has no interaction with the community.

[VenKitsune]

You won't get any answers to that as it would let players know how to avoid detection. One reason why the STF has no interaction with the community.

What?! Avoid detection? From what?

Right now, it seems like saying a single swear word accidentally or not is a grounds for a ban, but we have no idea because SE isnt transparent enough. How is not knowing if cursing is a bannable offense "avoiding detection"?