Recent Developments of TOS Actions Taken

[Vahlnir]

Are you implying that pretty much everyone uses a parser? Or are you implying that pretty much no one who doesn't use a parser can easily clear content beyond low level dungeons?

I don't use a parser myself. Never have in this game at least. I'm sure I'm not alone.

[linay]

I don't use a parser myself. Never have in this game at least. I'm sure I'm not alone.

Come to think of it, I don't think any PS4 player can use a parser, so you're definitely not alone.

[Tomoebi]

I've personally had the GMs mention that outside evidence is not accepted so do they not understand their own ToS, or does it depend on what you're reporting?

but gcbtw said outside evidence is accepted??? even though it never accepted before, but its accepted now, so its not do-double standard.
n-n-no its not cherrypicking, after all this is yoshida's game so he can do whatever he want with it.
i-i-it's also okay if they dont want to punish sex harrasment and mrt with outside evidence. it's their game you know...
i mean i-it's definitely not as s-s-serious as DPS harrasment. #dpsfeelsmatter

[CrystalRainbow]

I was in McDonald's the other day and some guy was freaking out because between skip the dishes and McDonald's he got the wrong food.
I'm sorry but people need to be put in there place from time to time. Getting away with stuff does mean your special and doesn't help people get better.
A few day ban if they truly like something will clear up toxic behaviour. The player will be nicer or move on. Most of the time.

[Vahlnir]

Come to think of it, I don't think any PS4 player can use a parser, so you're definitely not alone.

I play on both PS4 and PC as needed. Still no parser. But yeah, console players make up a decent chunk of the player base, so a lot of people don't use one.

[goob]

If you can't be a decent human being on the forsaken game then byebye, you get banned.
I mean look at the guys Twitter post. "I don't give a Foop about the ban xD!"
With his "Hehe EcksDee" face. He should care because eventually he'll get a ban
if he keeps on going with his nonsense.

Some streamers like the attention (new views) they get after word spreads about a temporary ban. A subsequent permanent ban might even bring more views. For some streamers the purpose of streaming is to play games and have fun with viewers. For others it's about getting more views regardless of how that's done. Punishment from a gaming company can help boost one's visibility as odd as that seems. I don't know which streamers fall into which category as I don't care and rarely watch Twitch.

[KageTokage]

The point of this whole matter keeps flying over the heads of a lot of people.

This has less to do with why a streamer was banned and more to do with the fact that SE deciding to extend their enforcement outside of the game itself has raised a grey area on what is/isn't punsihable.

I don't think it can be said with absolute certainty that the simple "Don't be a jerk" rule is going to protect someone that's doing something that's technically against the ToS like using a parser anymore.

If someone, say, kicks someone for doing low DPS, but doesn't state such in-game, nor do they actually say anything negative on stream, would they still be safe if the "victim" saw that they were using a parser to determine that they were underperforming and decided to remove them because of it?

Are you not allowed to say anything offensive about someone on stream at all now? In-game even directing a single curse/swear at someone out of frustration has been enough to be considered punishable so is it not okay to do such anywhere now? Even good-natured people have limits to their patience and can make a slip of the tongue at times.

If they are willing to enforce such things now, they should just come out and make a clear statement about it instead of having double standards and cherry-picking incidents. It's the lack of consistency that's the biggest issue overall; originally just with what was enforced, but now also with where it's enforced.

I've already had to deal with this personally when it comes to trolls in the hunting community who among others things, deliberately position the hunts in ways to kill as many players as possible or try to kill specific people they have grudges against (Like me). Some of them got punished, while others are still carrying on with their obnoxious behavior despite being reported multiple times.

[Arrius]

Are you not allowed to say anything offensive about someone on stream at all now? In-game even directing a single curse/swear at someone out of frustration has been enough to be considered punishable so is it not okay to do such anywhere now? Even good-natured people have limits to their patience and can make a slip of the tongue at times.

If it were just something offensive once in a while on stream, no one would gives a damn. But the streaming culture has evolved in a way that you have to be a toxic jerk on the screen to get the attention from the viewers and the community.
This is all about drama these days - The louder you are, the better are the numbers. And if they get you in the end, you can 'be sorry about that' and they lift your ban after a few days/weeks, so you can go back being like that afterwards.

It's not the wholesome stuff that gets the most attention, it's the sweet negative stuff/drama that people line up for with their popcorn bucket in the arms and that what gets the most forum posts.

[goob]

Why not just be respectful toward others publicly, regardless of how you feel about them, instead of trying to figure out *exactly* how far you can go in-game or on a streaming platform without getting banned?

[Ryaz]

So, what I see here is a guy, who purposely singles out a player in his live stream for poor DPS, rages and mocks him in front of his audience, while displaying his in-game name, leaving the fellow open for more harrassment for other players.

I'd say the suspension was deserved. I have nothing against parses, and most people are cool about them, but when people act like this, they ruin it for the rest of us.

As for the inconsistent banning and not using outside evidence, it's far, far easier to alter a random screenshot you took than it is to alter a legitimate, verified live stream on a platform like Twitch with the streamer actually speaking. So I can understand them using this as evidence vs a regular screenshot.