Recent Developments of TOS Actions Taken

[Inputnamehere]

So what you are saying here, is that these so called hardcore raiders, who often claim to be so good at the game that everything is easy, aren't actually that good and have to cheat to win. Sounds about right.

I wasn't saying this. But I wouldn't mind seeing whether such a claim has its credits.

It's quite simple, really. Disable bot callouts and see how many people suddenly forget how to properly do raids.

[Kuroka]

Its a shame suck software even exists... its even worse if ppl even use it to feel special or mock others...

[linay]

auto market board undercutting

Is that even possible? There are multiple steps to take just to change your selling price, and if all of it can be automated in addition to knowing when and by how much to undercut, it would seem to put the integrity of the game into question. I keep hearing about hacks in games like Fallout 76, and would think this game would be susceptible to such hacks as well if "auto market board undercutting" is possible.

[Rasikko]

Some of you aren't gonna stop til you finally get your casual free hardcore only utopia that you've been dreaming of.

Well keep waiting.

[Angus-Beef]

Some of you aren't gonna stop til you finally get your casual free hardcore only utopia that you've been dreaming of.

Well keep waiting.

I mean raiders already have that, they just don't with casuals lol, not hard to make friends with other competent people and not run with a dps who doesn't dodge or a healer who's brain dead or a tank that doesn't know how to cycle cooldowns.

The fact that you think it's raiders who are only worrying about of they can be douches to people is sad. Casuals are just as toxic and talk just as much crap.

[Angus-Beef]

Why is that even a point to make and or be worried for? If you know what they are doing - the nico nico players- then it explains itself. The streamer even explains why it was so bad not once, not twice not even three times. SE is not the bad guy here and people need to stop trying to paint this picture of them being one. The one who's been crossing the line isn't SE it's been the players in these examples people aren't reading or listening too. Don't name and shame, don't break the TOS, don't look for ways to be a dick to someone for whatever the reason. It's not that hard.

I mean the same can be said with not doing 6k dps, it's not that hard, jokes aside. It's asking what will trigger it, will an out of context joke trigger a gm acting, can people clip a stream and submit that, will the gm always watch the whole vod to make sure it wasn't something bad.

[Melichoir]

So what you are saying here, is that these so called hardcore raiders, who often claim to be so good at the game that everything is easy, aren't actually that good and have to cheat to win. Sounds about right.

Im skeptical you play with many raiders who clear all the tiers. Call out bots are useless if you dont know the fight or its mechanics. Most raiders can do these fights without that external help because they, you know, learn the fights.

The fact that you think it's raiders who are only worrying about of they can be douches to people is sad. Casuals are just as toxic and talk just as much crap.

In my experience, its usually casuals who end up being most toxic simply because they either think they know more than they do or believe that thins should cater to their play style. I see it far more often than not.

[monk-dps]

I mean the same can be said with not doing 6k dps, it's not that hard, jokes aside. It's asking what will trigger it, will an out of context joke trigger a gm acting, can people clip a stream and submit that, will the gm always watch the whole vod to make sure it wasn't something bad.

None of that matters as everything that happened was within context. It's been explained they have been doing this for awhile, and aren't doing any witch hunting. The people that were banned were clearly breaking said rules. Not doing 6k dps is in no way compareable to naming and shaming on a live twitch stream. If you want to pull hair strings fine, not being able to perform is one thing but that can be worked on with practice. Being respectable and not being a dick is WAY easier and as a working functioning adult shouldn't need to be mentioned. In short, your example fails cause you can't compare being a decent human being to skill level in a freaking video game. If thats the case everyone sucks cause noone comes to any game with all the know how on the first day ever.

It's like you guys just want a reason to be dicks. WHY?

[Angus-Beef]

None of that matters as everything that happened was within context. It's been explained they have been doing this for awhile, and aren't doing any witch hunting. The people that were banned were clearly breaking said rules. Not doing 6k dps is in no way compareable to naming and shaming on a live twitch stream. If you want to pull hair strings fine, not being able to perform is one thing but that can be worked on with practice. Being respectable and not being a dick is WAY easier and as a working functioning adult shouldn't need to be mentioned. In short, your example fails cause you can't compare being a decent human being to skill level in a freaking video game. If thats the case everyone sucks cause noone comes to any game with all the know how on the first day ever.

It's like you guys just want a reason to be dicks. WHY?

You see a lot of what you're saying is right, until we have context on the BLM, a leech creeping around JP for carries only doing 6k. He wasn't respectful, he wasn't considering other people's time, and the whole of a server seemed to not care.

No functioning adult is gonna sugar coat reality for people, things aint sweet and coming to clear parties under performing is the definition of casual toxicity. People want respect but don't even give any before asking for it in return.

You can probably go ask a Nico Nico stream, but they'll proba ly make a poll for their stream then laugh when everyone says no.

[Angus-Beef]

Im skeptical you play with many raiders who clear all the tiers. Call out bots are useless if you dont know the fight or its mechanics. Most raiders can do these fights without that external help because they, you know, learn the fights.



In my experience, its usually casuals who end up being most toxic simply because they either think they know more than they do or believe that thins should cater to their play style. I see it far more often than not.

I was told I was toxic by a casual for saying they should replace their lvl 30 something weapon, with something more lvl appropriate since we were Ina lvl 50 run, never sprouts vote kick a healer so quick.