Quote Originally Posted by Yorumi View Post
I don't intend to keep going back and forth on this. You're arrogantly misrepresenting the discussion. Never does anyone have the clairvoyance of a carefully laid out perfect situation that can be devised on paper. Using clemency is very complicated especially in the chaos of a mass pull. There's not a lot of really good tells if a healer is struggling in the midst of chaos. A lot of healers let a tank's HP fall knowing they can top them off fast so the healer can focus on dps. It's almost imposible to know if a healer has blown all their cooldowns and to see how much they're spamming heals without taking focus off the task at hand which is tanking and avoiding aoes. Sometimes even hallowed ground isn't fast enough to come out in an emergency and it's instant. On top of that the pld's magic rotation is highly favored for aoe so they might not even have the mp available.

For players who aren't high end raiders expecting them to do their job right and babysit a healer on top of that is extreme. Basically it's a skill that has few real uses and requires near psychic clairvoyance to use properly. To insult people for saying focus on tanking is nuts.
I'm not misrepresenting anything. I mean I never knew using clemency once meant I can't tank anymore how interesting! I must be godtier if I can use clemency and still tank!.

You don't wish to continue because you know you can't factually back up your claims. You merely have "well this is how I expect every group to handle this" while ignoring that gear really really matters. If I'm a mim ilvl tank in a dungeon and pull wall to wall sure a capped healer can keep me alive but again what if both are min? He'll not to mention all the wipes I've saved as a rdm, casting a cure that allowed the healer to catch back up. Casting a single vercure, doesn't stop me from being a dps able to dps. Tossing a clemency on myself or another does not inhibit my ability to tank. Emity is so easy know that a single gcd on clemency won't devastate the run.