Umbrellas...? And less content...?

[MOZZYSTAR]

We aren't getting less dungeons because of resources, we are getting less dungeons because there are so many in the game and they want to keep content fresh rather than stagnant. Something I agree with. We got a ridiculous amount of content in 5.1 compared to past patches (24 man, Hades EX, Ultimate, Ishgard restoration, BLU, PVP, New game +,massive overhaul of crafting and gathering, and a large number of other changes and additions such as fellowships), so complaining about less content is kinda ignorant if not entitled.

Also did you completely ignore the fact that we are getting an additional trial in 5.2? That alone, regardless of what it is, makes up for a lost dungeon.

If you read the first post in full, you could see I wasn't complaining. xD I was asking if they specified whether 1 less dungeon means more content elsewhere, or if we should be concerned (i.e. less content over all). But thanks for the response! That seems to be the general idea (more content), but so far it seems shaky as to what that "more content" will take place as.

I'm honestly amazed so many responded to this thread. Only expected one or two comments to explain and that be it. xD /Goes to read all the comments

After reading a bit:

That title is pretty exaggerated... more contet in exchange for one dungeon now hmmm which is better.

When people don't read the original post and just presumptuously post. xD /Shrugs/ Why even post? Just makes you look silly.

It’s gonna be more Eureka. Nothing they have done so far has proven otherwise.

I would cry (legitimately cry - probably) if it turned out to be more Eureka. They really need to just... Let it go. I think it's neat that they're removing enemies from Diadem so DoL can gather in peace, though.

Hopefully it doesn't turn out to just be DoL/DoH. I get they're trying to push them, but it's really not my thing. I like making money via dungeon-running/raiding with friends. DoL is pretty therapeutic weirdly enough (I'll probably won't invest in it, though... maybe?), but crafting is just... not my thing.

Not really sure how I feel about umbrellas (be they mounts or something). If it is a mount and it turns out to be Poppins' style, could easily just hover you over the ground in non-flight areas like that hand mount does. It just seems kind of random, so... Guess I'll just have to wait and see what it is, along with what this new content will be. xD

P.S. A friend I were talking about this, and we both agree that regular content (i.e. dungeons) and DoL/H content shouldn't be struggling for power (or as he put it "at war with each other). We both think since SE is such a big company, both content should be achievable side-by-side -- ideally. If they're sacrificing content for the sake of a different type of content, then perhaps (though this is obvious even before now) they should add more people to their team and delegate better so that they can continue to provide. But that's an ideal and it will never happen, so there's that. Hopefully it means more MSQ or other content pretty much everyone would do as opposed to just DoL/H stuff.

[Iscah]

I get second hand shivers from seeing my poor WoL half drowned in the heavy rain of Eastern Thanalan. I'd love to pop one open on the spot.

Oh good, I'm not the only one!

That heavy rain just looks so miserable to be out in, you can practically feel it.

[Sated]

Honestly I will probably end up collectively spending more time /gposing with an umbrella than I would in whatever new dungeon they would have added instead...

I know everyone's got their preferred content but "slightly more variety in ex dungeons" isn't one of mine so it's hard for me to get upset about getting one dungeon instead of two. We're still getting a dungeon.

[Silverquick]

Are you telling me you actually enjoy dungeons?

Yes actually I do, I only wish they were a little longer. I do like dungeon crawling.

I don't mind 8 man content.... but all those are is a single boss fight... that's pretty much it, It's like cheating and skipping the entire thing and just going straight to the end. While I don't mind this on occasion, there's no real meat to it and its done in a heartbeat... THOSE are the types of things I tend to only do once and never again.

Its like bubble gum and candy without ever eating the full meal.

The 24 man raids I do enjoy but then again they are the full course, a full self contained adventure. I feel "full" when I get done with one.

[Ultimatecalibur]

With 70+ dungeons in the game, they just need to grow some testicles and make a dozen of them actually challenging. Solves a lot of issues. Its no surprise dungeons are unpopular. They are released outdated, follow the same pattern every time, drop useless loot and need to be spammed for tomestones.

I guess you are unfamiliar with what happened with Pharos Sirius during 2.1. It was noticeably more difficult than Copperbell Mines (HM) and Haukke Manor (HM). Hard enough that players regularly dropped out enough that they needed to add the withdraw penalty.

This is a point where I wonder if SE is paying any attention. Beyond a couple gates to prevent pulling, the dungeons are almost exactly the same template when it comes to dungeon population and pacing. 100% same kind of scripting.

This design template is the result of how players did 2.0 and 2.1 dungeons. Notice how all the 2.0 and 2.1 dungeons but Haukke Manor (HM) have side paths and many of those side paths have minor optional rewards? Most dungeon runs completely ignored the side paths even when fairly new. The gates were even added to stop tank sac strats likely those used in Amdapor Keep. you may not like it but the devs adjusted dungeon design to how players were doing them.

[Burningskull]

Also did you completely ignore the fact that we are getting an additional trial in 5.2? That alone, regardless of what it is, makes up for a lost dungeon.

We get additional trials all the time. The Crysalis, Yojimbo, etc. This extra trial does not make up for 1 less dungeon. Pretty soon it'll be 1 new dungeon every other patch.

[BroFists]

How come they are replacing the dungeon with an umbrella? No one asked for an umbrella?

[Lambdafish]

If you read the first post in full, you could see I wasn't complaining. xD I was asking if they specified whether 1 less dungeon means more content elsewhere, or if we should be concerned (i.e. less content over all). But thanks for the response! That seems to be the general idea (more content), but so far it seems shaky as to what that "more content" will take place as.

Thats how SE releases content, something which I do have an issue with. Toning down dungeons for the content we are getting is a good thing, the problem is that long form content comes out of the gate half baked so they can spread it across the expansion. Thats an entirely different issue for a different thread though.

[Unholychinchilla]

I get second hand shivers from seeing my poor WoL half drowned in the heavy rain of Eastern Thanalan. I'd love to pop one open on the spot.

Oh good, I'm not the only one!

That heavy rain just looks so miserable to be out in, you can practically feel it.

Given that I'll relocate to under cover if it starts raining while I'm crafting in places in Idyllshire, what I'd love is for one of my retainers to appear and hold an umbrella over me if I'm crafting when it rains. Would glam them all in maid/butler attire.

[Nedkel]

We are cutting content for casuals in half, here have umbrella mount and be quiet. hehehe

Tommorow we will cut raids in 2, but here you will be able to wear two pieces of head gear at the same time, we specially hired college intern to do it for us, i hope you are looking forward to it!