Umbrellas...? And less content...?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

We do maps, but I wouldn't exactly call those challenging or engaging, likely even less so than the dungeons. It's random as to if we'll even find them in the first place, progression inside of them is random, and the only bosses in them are on the bottom floors. If Shadowbringer's maps are different, I wouldn't know, as our luck hasn't allowed us to progress past floor 3.

PotD and HoH are old content where our jobs' abilities would be more limited and thus less fun to play. I'm sure eventually Shadowbringers will get a deep dungeon, but it's not there right now.

Additionally deep dungeon requires all four of us to be present and that's not always possible, usually we're running a man down, which the duty finder makes up for.

Well, its harder content. If you choose to ignore it because its older thats on you.

[Zakon]

Well, its harder content. If you choose to ignore it because its older thats on you.

I'm not discrediting it as valuable content, I'm pointing out that it's old and less interesting. We need all four of us to be present, which isn't always possible. Progression is also desynced from progression elsewhere in the game, which one of our players doesn't like because he thinks it makes his gear feel pointless.

I am looking forward to Shadowbringers deep dungeon but frankly it's a bit rude to suggest that. How would you like it if I told you to just go back and do Alexander if they decided not to add a new raid? I mean it's there and challenging and you can sync down to it.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I'm not discrediting it as valuable content, I'm pointing out that it's old and less interesting. We need all four of us to be present, which isn't always possible. Progression is also desynced from progression elsewhere in the game, which one of our players doesn't like because he thinks it makes his gear feel pointless.

I am looking forward to Shadowbringers deep dungeon but frankly it's a bit rude to suggest that. How would you like it if I told you to just go back and do Alexander if they decided not to add a new raid? I mean it's there and challenging and you can sync down to it.

I'd be all for it actually, i never completed it when it was relevant, my static broke on A2S

Also, his gear kind of IS pointless in this game. Unless you do raids, and even then, gear only helps, skill is whats needed.