Umbrellas...? And less content...?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Going to throw out a civil protest about the decision to make less dungeons.

I am fully aware that a large portion of the player base doesn't enjoy them and considers them a chore, and I also admit that they aren't particularly challenging. However, I have no desire to join a static due to having been burnt out on the raiding process when I played World of Warcraft. I enjoy PUGing the trials, but once I get the weapons I want from them, I have no reason to return.

I am part of a small group of friends who play this game to chill and spend time with each other and dungeons so far have suited us perfectly. We enjoy collecting the various tomestone gear sets and it gives us something to do every night. We were friends before FFXIV and we have our own guild and house which we share. This decision will more than likely cause us to become bored and leave, as the game no longer offers any content for us.

If the developers believe that allocating resources elsewhere is best for the long-term health of the game, I would respectfully request they look into what they can do to provide more 4-man content. To my knowledge, dungeons are the only kind of content in the game for end-game which does not require at least 8 people.

Palace of the Dead to floor 200, Heaven on High to 100, Maps.

[Zakon]

Palace of the Dead to floor 200, Heaven on High to 100, Maps.

We do maps, but I wouldn't exactly call those challenging or engaging, likely even less so than the dungeons. It's random as to if we'll even find them in the first place, progression inside of them is random, and the only bosses in them are on the bottom floors. If Shadowbringer's maps are different, I wouldn't know, as our luck hasn't allowed us to progress past floor 3.

PotD and HoH are old content where our jobs' abilities would be more limited and thus less fun to play. I'm sure eventually Shadowbringers will get a deep dungeon, but it's not there right now.

Additionally deep dungeon requires all four of us to be present and that's not always possible, usually we're running a man down, which the duty finder makes up for.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

We do maps, but I wouldn't exactly call those challenging or engaging, likely even less so than the dungeons. It's random as to if we'll even find them in the first place, progression inside of them is random, and the only bosses in them are on the bottom floors. If Shadowbringer's maps are different, I wouldn't know, as our luck hasn't allowed us to progress past floor 3.

PotD and HoH are old content where our jobs' abilities would be more limited and thus less fun to play. I'm sure eventually Shadowbringers will get a deep dungeon, but it's not there right now.

Additionally deep dungeon requires all four of us to be present and that's not always possible, usually we're running a man down, which the duty finder makes up for.

Well, its harder content. If you choose to ignore it because its older thats on you.

[Zakon]

Well, its harder content. If you choose to ignore it because its older thats on you.

I'm not discrediting it as valuable content, I'm pointing out that it's old and less interesting. We need all four of us to be present, which isn't always possible. Progression is also desynced from progression elsewhere in the game, which one of our players doesn't like because he thinks it makes his gear feel pointless.

I am looking forward to Shadowbringers deep dungeon but frankly it's a bit rude to suggest that. How would you like it if I told you to just go back and do Alexander if they decided not to add a new raid? I mean it's there and challenging and you can sync down to it.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I'm not discrediting it as valuable content, I'm pointing out that it's old and less interesting. We need all four of us to be present, which isn't always possible. Progression is also desynced from progression elsewhere in the game, which one of our players doesn't like because he thinks it makes his gear feel pointless.

I am looking forward to Shadowbringers deep dungeon but frankly it's a bit rude to suggest that. How would you like it if I told you to just go back and do Alexander if they decided not to add a new raid? I mean it's there and challenging and you can sync down to it.

I'd be all for it actually, i never completed it when it was relevant, my static broke on A2S

Also, his gear kind of IS pointless in this game. Unless you do raids, and even then, gear only helps, skill is whats needed.

[Theodric]

Palace of the Dead to floor 200, Heaven on High to 100, Maps.

Maps are more RNG than a challenge, though. POTD and HOH are pretty fun, though I struggle to find people to do it with. The higher floors also take a while to reach so the first portion is just rushing through to reach the point where it requires planning.

Personally I'd love to see more 4 man content that is tough outright and can be queued for.