Any word on when we will get an Auction House?

[Rubicon]

We need a price history. If retainers can give that, then ok. Right now they cannot.

[Dreamer]

In an AH, you can sell your items wherever the fuck you want without having to pay a retarded tax.

I've yet to use an AH that didn't have a tax of some sort.

People know where to find your items because they are automatically placed in the category that makes the most sense.

Just like they currently are with the Market Wards.

An auction house lists previous prices which is a great mechanism for keeping prices low.

No, certain implementations do. Many don't. Most of the major MMOs don't have a price history.

An AH doesn't require you to load sever different zones to look around.

This it true. However, the sheer amount of whining that we see on these boards about this one point is ridiculous. Is 10 seconds really that much of a bother?

[Cendres]

I've yet to use an AH that didn't have a tax of some sort.



Just like they currently are with the Market Wards.



No, certain implementations do. Many don't. Most of the major MMOs don't have a price history.



Is 10 seconds really that much of a bother?

It's 10 seconds every time you have to move out and in of a ward for a FEW items at a time (usually one)... So yes, it's annoying.

[Wolfie]

It's 10 seconds every time you have to move out and in of a ward for a FEW items at a time (usually one)... So yes, it's annoying.

I've been arguing that with Dreamer for weeks, among many other MW shortcomings. Don't bother. She'll pass off your replies and/or put you on ignore, because she can't possibly grasp anything you tell her and will defend physical shops and having to walk between item purchases to the death.

[Rumo]

I haven't read all the 22 pages but what I read in the first few really made me wonder why so many people don't see the necessity for an Auction House.
So here are some of my problems with the wards that I wouldn't have with an Auction House:

- Crashes
- Gotta search, then switch zones, then wait for the Retainers to load to buy something. Buying takes way too long.
- People sell everything everywhere. Just browsing a specific ward to find new gear won't make sense because, in my perception, over 80% sell their Marmot Pelts and Wind Shards in the god damn Battlecraft ward...
- I want to sell my thousands of crystals since a few weeks but only thinking of that horrible UI and the lag while setting up the prices frustrates me. Selling takes way too long.
- If I then finally want to do it anyway I can't because that specific ward is full. And that's my main complaint.

So if I ever will play again more than once or twice per month I need an Auction House first. Its role in such a game is just too important to me to let it be replaced by such a crappy imitation of it.

[Morticous]

I haven't read all the 22 pages but what I read in the first few really made me wonder why so many people don't see the necessity for an Auction House.
So here are some of my problems with the wards that I wouldn't have with an Auction House:

- Crashes
- Gotta search, then switch zones, then wait for the Retainers to load to buy something
- People sell everything everywhere. Just browsing a specific ward to find new gear won't make sense because in my perception over 80% sell their Marmot Pelts and Wind Shards in the god damn Battlegraft ward...
- I want to sell my thousands of crystals since a few weeks but only thinking of that horrible UI and the lag while setting up the prices frustrates me. Selling takes way too long.
- If I then finally want to do it anyway I can't because that specific ward is full. And that's my main complaint.

So if I ever will play again more that once or twice per month I need an Auction House first. Its role in such a game is just too important to me to let it be replaced by such a crappy imitation of it.

dont forget your retainer has like 50 spots but you get mega taxed if you sell in the wrong area, and not only that moving your retainer from one area to another is work in its self. Trying to sell something has never been more of a pain in the ass.

[TonyMontana]

I've yet to use an AH that didn't have a tax of some sort.



Just like they currently are with the Market Wards.



No, certain implementations do. Many don't. Most of the major MMOs don't have a price history.



This it true. However, the sheer amount of whining that we see on these boards about this one point is ridiculous. Is 10 seconds really that much of a bother?

How about in an Auction House I can sell my goods in a market ward I cant because i cant summon my retainer in ANY of the market wards in uldah.

Auction House 10000 Market ward 0

[RedAffinity]

"What does an auction house do that the market wards can't"

I answer your question, with another question.

"How is the current market ward system in any way more advantageous to the auction house system say... found in FFXI? Let's focus mainly on basic functions, such as ease of use, availability, stability, convenience, etc..."

like any topic, a lot is based upon one's opinion, there are some facts difficult to ignore. The current system is not perfectly reliable, the wards have been known to crash. You often find yourself unable to place a retainer in the appropriate ward because it's reached its capacity wasting time searching numerous instances to just summon one. The UI for trading, pricing, and setting up a complete retainer ready to sell is sluggish, slow, overly complicated, and requires far more steps than should be necessary. <--- alright this last one was an opinion

Again, what about the retainer system is in any way better other than it "feeling" a little more involved, than speaking to a counter - navigating through 1 simple UI, placing or purchasing your item and calling it a day. Someone enlighten me, this is the MMO i've chosen to play in the long run, and the auction/retainer is an integral part of the system and to me right now feels like it's a big mess and maybe i'm just missing something.

[Seif]

Honestly nobody's wanting to tear down the MW just because we all want an AH so don't take it so personally.

There's no reason why you can't zone all day between the retainers and re-logging after being booted as you're having fun with your Rolanberry zombie-bazaar. Nobody is trying to take that way from you. While you're busy playing with endless menus and waiting for the precious 3d models to load the rest of us could just use the AH and be happy with it.


After few weeks when only the dedicated role-players do freaky stuff in the MW zones I'm sure you'll appreciate the fact that there's an AH to use for real shopping =)

[Andrien]

I don't like the market wards at all. it gets to packed and often times you cant summon your own retainer. (sometimes)