Quote Originally Posted by Valvadrix View Post
Can't they? The fight was nerfed into the ground, it's the only 24-man raid with the Echo, and the most common wipe mechanic (Duskblades) is way less punishing. I think the problem isn't as big as it used to be with vote abandons seemingly happening more often than actual clears.
Sadly I only ever did Orbonne once, and that was the day the relic dropped.
Almost everybody was a first timer, and yet we only wiped once, as much as with the other bosses or less.
So yeah, I'd say people can do it, while on the other hand a lot of people still can't seem able to do even LotA and that'll never get better.