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  1. #371
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    Nandrolone's Avatar
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    Kyara Nemura
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    How about we wait for tomorrow and see what he has to say. Obviously the issue has hit a nerve and they are aware of the outcry. It certainly got on their radar. Butts are important to people! I suspect they'll fix it where they can or revert it.
    I am extremely happy if that is true, him willing to explain why they changed those bottoms. As for if they will stay changed or not? Well, if they go back to how it was previously, that would be great. But it’s less likely he will talk about a butt slider possibility. If they don’t however decide to go back to the old bottoms, the only thing that would calm the community down would be the early announcement of a butt slider, or, him saying they will implement “bigger rear” items in the future.

    I don’t know, I kind of have a bad feeling about this one. If I’m honest? I think it won’t go back to the way it was, and he won’t mention any possibility of a butt slider, or butt modified items. Maybe I’m being too cynical, I’m not sure.
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    Last edited by Nandrolone; 12-14-2019 at 12:08 AM.

  2. #372
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    QT_Melon's Avatar
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    Qt Melon
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Having no personal interest in "butts" (I have one, I sit on it), I'm amazed just how much discussion goes into them around here...
    "Having no interest in the side lives of NPCs it's amazing how certain forums dedicate themselves to them" You do understand that we all don't share the same interests and though we can have many interests in one thing? If it isn't that important, there was no reason to dedicate a coffer to them in raid, that gave the INCENTIVE to run that raid multiple times instead of only running it for the item drops that week. If glamour wasn't important, then there wouldn't be contests, websites showing gear etc... not just from fans but by the company itself.

    Also you're eating some weird-shaped pancakes if smaller-but-still-curved is "pancake-shaped".
    Shape is not the equivalent of depth. Circle is not a Sphere.

    A pancake is often referred to a FLAT object talking about its DEPTH. While Shape (round) is also its feature, they're not synonymous terms.

    It would be as ridiculous as coming in and chiding people about how someone describes that characters run like feathers (describing weight) and exclaiming "I don't know where you people come from where people look like feathers!"




    Indeed. We discussed it a while ago and concluded that it's misleading due to different poses in the two images - the 1.0 girl is stretching (torso forward, legs slightly bent) which makes her look bigger compared to the neutral pose.

    It's not that misleading actually, and what you're PERPETUATING however, IS. Neither rear was large, there hasn't been an argument about it being HUGE, in 1.0 There was however an argument about what was largER is now missing.

    See youtube post.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hV_...youtu.be&t=509



    The body's internal balance is a recognizable thing in anatomy, especially artistically (to the point, yes some embellishments may occur) my other post also showed this later but I'm sure it was skipped.

    So yes, the appearance of the rear is actually kinda important to people aesthetically not because people just like looking at butts, but also because it balances out the human body.

    Thankfully later posts from you are more well reasoned, but I was seriously disappointed in seeing this kind of condescending passive aggressive response from you.
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    Last edited by QT_Melon; 12-14-2019 at 12:35 AM.

  3. #373
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    Glenfiddich's Avatar
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    Kitty Valentine
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmacus View Post
    In the test stream earlier yoshi-p has said that tomorrow at the 14 hr live stream he will explain the butt issue.
    If he is going to explain the 2B butt clipping issue, I'm curious if he is going to explain why they didn't fix any of the other clipping issues that exist since this game exist.
    It for sure will be a hypocrite exuse.
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  4. #374
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I don't understand what you are trying to do here. You know how many times I get falsely reported on these forums? It is your opinion that it isn't a fix, it is my opinion it is a fix. Get over it. It is my opinion it is not a feature, it is your opinion it is. It is now "gas lighting" for having differing opinions than that of the supposed majority I guess.

    I do not take kindly to threats, and I will not respond as I used to. The 2b butt is not that big of a deal, okay. OKAY? It is only flattened on long tops, and why would it only be flattened on long tops? To prevent clipping! It is a "fix" you might not classify it as such, IN YOUR OPINION, but it is.

    Threatening me over a differing opinion, or an exclamation point.

    Maybe to you it isn't but I'm pretty sure there is more against what he did to it than for it. Why in first place did he even touch it when there still way more stuff that needs fixed before it. Sounds like wastefulness to me. I never had one problem with it ever clipping not like how 90% other stuff clips and is never fixed. Since thought need fix clipping to it now he better fix all the clipping problems to all other gear and how long hair clips all the time.
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    Last edited by hynaku; 12-14-2019 at 01:36 AM.

  5. #375
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sounds like a waste of resources to me. Why would they adjust it if everyone was enjoying it.
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  6. #376
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    Inigo Meowtoya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmacus View Post
    In the test stream earlier yoshi-p has said that tomorrow at the 14 hr live stream he will explain the butt issue.
    *readies torchforks*

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  9. #377
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    Lady Mikuni
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmacus View Post
    In the test stream earlier yoshi-p has said that tomorrow at the 14 hr live stream he will explain the butt issue.
    "explain" or "address"?

    If it's "explain" there will be a LOT of upset people and unsubbing.
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  10. #378
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    Fawkes Macleod
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmacus View Post
    In the test stream earlier yoshi-p has said that tomorrow at the 14 hr live stream he will explain the butt issue.
    We don't need him to explain it, we know what the issue is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    it's the same problem as Quaintrelle's Ruffled Skirt, it doesn't display the skirt with 99% of body gear. I assume body gear is only ever flagged as "long" or "short" and if it's long then we get the reduced version of the leg gear instead of the normal one. And for whatever reason things like the Hannish Wool Autumn Shirt and Scorpion Harness are "long".
    What we need to hear is what they're going to do to fix it.
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  11. #379
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    Ariane Claudel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenfiddich View Post
    If he is going to explain the 2B butt clipping issue, I'm curious if he is going to explain why they didn't fix any of the other clipping issues that exist since this game exist.
    It for sure will be a hypocrite exuse.

    They have. Hair clipping they don't seem to care so much about. When equipment clips, they are more likely to do something. I don't know why it is, but it is.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...s_belts_in_43/
    They changed the label on the spring shirt from a short shirt to a long one, and thus sashes and such then disappeared on pants when equipped together with the spring shirt. People liked the shirt because it was one of the few that didn't alter bottoms. They didn't explain why they did that to the spring shirt, but it was probably clipping. I had seen it clip into one pair of bottoms, and the entire point of removing belts/sashes/skirts(and now butts) on what's considered "long" shirts is to avoid clipping.

    They've also disabled rings on 2B's gloves. I just remembered my friend telling those clipped into something. Perhaps to fix the clipping, the rings had to go for some reason? I don't know, but no cares about talking about that because its not about butts.
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  12. #380
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by plasmacutter View Post
    "explain" or "address"?

    If it's "explain" there will be a LOT of upset people and unsubbing.
    No there won't. There will be a lot of people Saying they are, but they won't actually do it.
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