Thread: Butt is flat again... Patch 5.15

And just to beat a counter argument to the punch, mods are not an answer to this issue.

For the most part, people quarrel with this situation because it gives the notion that SE won't agree to see eye to eye about the changes we want to the models and many are well aware about the technical difficulty involved. At the least people would be more complicit with "never" as an answer to the demand for a rear-end buff rather than this needing to be a reoccurring discussion with no answer.

Additionally some people prefer not to use mods as it creates a disconnect between what you see and what everyone else sees. It's not the answer for everyone on top of breaking a rule or three.

Originally Posted by SturmChurro

That's my thinking, just SE priorities. People are acting like this is and I quote "regression" or censorship, I highly doubt that. Probably just got bug reports about 2b bottoms specifically.

The issue your also brought up makes a lot of sense, according to you since it is multiple longboots that are causing the same effect, it's probably an issue with that skin tone thing. In the other thread I think people said the raid bottoms were also effected in that way. People are trying to co-opt the bug of a completely seperate piece of gear, the various raid bottoms, to call attention on 2b.

I don't know if the longboots issue is related to the transparency thing. If you get behind some kind of transparency effect, the hosiery/sheer parts of the Yorha outfits will disappear and show bare skin underneath:
https://i.imgur.com/fgZAoVv.png
https://i.imgur.com/gKPXiKD.jpg
I only know of two ways to trigger this: walk into an aquarium, or sit atop water. The 5.15 patch notes did warn that these transparent portions on the Yorha equipment will disappear in some situations. I believe it just not possible to show the two different transparency effects together, so that's probably not going to go away unless they go back to only using solid colors, or if they can make big change to the graphics. This maybe why they avoided putting transparency effects onto gear for so long.

Most of the raid bottom glitches I've seen just look like tears in the hose when paired with long boots, but the DRG bottoms are the worst of it from what I've seen.
https://old.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...with_2b_boots/

And apparently can get even worst and cause holes in the legs:
https://old.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ency_a_little/
That maybe an issue with the transparency, but I still don't think it should be doing that. The water/glass shows that is should be just showing the bare skin if its just a transparency issue. That is probably something they will fix.

Also, someone made a post basically saying this game was made for westerners.. this is not true. FFXIV, heck even the FF series are what they are: JRPGs. I believe it is fair for the majority of the aspects to adhere to their culture, including personal tastes and all that jazz. The problem I have with most western thinkers, including my comrade Americans, is you tend to think the world owes everything to you.

Originally Posted by Rasikko

[Gaslighting is] making someone's decision to do something seem like such a bad and horrible thing that they themselves begin to question the validity of it. It's a rather unfortunate yet very effective form of control(for most people), and an easy way to point out narcissists, as it's part of their way of breaking someone's mind down.

Like let's say you decided to die your hair red, even though I said not to, because I liked it black. I will keep on bringing this up and over-exaggerating how it stupid it was that you died your hair, and will not let it go.

Short definition: You begin to doubt your own thinking.

Yes and no. It's about making the person doubt their thinking - but more about insisting that things didn't happen the way the victim remembers them, or that something that has changed was "always like that", and making the victim doubt their own memory or understanding of what's going on.

Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting

Originally Posted by Ariane

I don't know if the longboots issue is related to the transparency thing. If you get behind some kind of transparency effect, the hosiery/sheer parts of the Yorha outfits will disappear and show bare skin underneath [...]

Something I've wondered with these various glitches:

1. Water removes the stocking effect

2. DRG leg gear is glitching since the stockings were altered

...so what happens if you go into the water while wearing the glitched stockings?

Originally Posted by Nandrolone

However, there is a strange pattern happening from what I see.

A pattern of this incident and what else?

The only pattern I can think of is how full-length pants on male characters turn into fancy underwear for the female version.

Originally Posted by Iscah

Something I've wondered with these various glitches:

1. Water removes the stocking effect

2. DRG leg gear is glitching since the stockings were altered

...so what happens if you go into the water while wearing the glitched stockings?

I thought of that but don't have the drg legs to try it. I have the healer legs and striking legs. The striking legs seem to be ok. I couldn't find any pair of long boots that caused an issue with them.

But the healers bottoms get a tear in inner thighs that stretches across the lower band when paired with every single long boots that I tried, so I decided to put them under water while glitched to see if interesting happens. The stockings disappear like expected. The tear remains in the band. No crazy leg holes open up or anything like that.