Thread: Butt is flat again... Patch 5.15

Originally Posted by Driavna

There is no bias and SE don't hate or are scared of butts (at least for now, will see on the future if FFXIV is going to be "update to current year"), a lot of bosses designs are a testament to that. The main problem with the butts (male and female) is the shape, outright weird. Remember your SS with the last PvP set? (I like it BTW) The pants (for male or female) ruin the outfit for me because the shape is out of place (flat). Since I'm not sure I can link SS from other games I invite anyone to google the nano suit from Crysis, Raiden from Metal Gear: Revergerance, Tosh from SC2 or Genji from Overwatch. Then compare any of those to the PvP suit in question.

You mentioned Viera I will say that still works. The size was always similar to the base butt but shaped in a more natural manner. In all honesty, is a pity that every time this topic surface is always mock and dimish as a sexual thing, sure is that for some, but for me is tied to general aesthetics.

Anyway, and back to the topic, if anything this has showcased me the reason why the butt is the way it is and why most of the gear covers/hide it. This whole "fiasco" is more a testament of "the cutting corners" approach FFXIV team has been using since SB, because they did not even bother properly testing it things like the clipping from DRG leggins+2b boots are a thing.

Yeah these are my thoughts too. I have been vocal enough about it, I agree with your thoughts on "cutting corners". On the same topic of butt sliders, I think there is actually a quote by Yoshida himself somewhere around here of him saying that adding something like a butt slider would require a full redesign of their outfits, because of all the clipping issues that would arise or stretched textures, and the sheer amount of outfits in the game make it a logistic nightmare. I am paraphrasing, obviously, but I don't think Yoshida is lying here, and the logic of having no butt sliders would persist here with a flattening of the 2b butt - only with outfits that cover the waist.

You are right, I forgot that the viera butt is actually effectively the same as the base butt, but using some tricks of the eye to make it look bigger than it is. The 2b butt actually resized and morphed your bottom. Either way, the viera butt is still out there to see in all it's glory, so that further makes me believe that there is no bias towards butts. And yes some boss designs incorporate butts, or skimpy outfits right now.

Yeah, I remember the screenshot. I think in the actual miqo'te screenshot thread I also touched on those PvP bottoms, they are skintight and look horribly flat. The 2b bottoms dyed an effective color, makes that set look MUCH better, and it even matches the ninja aesthetic I had going for it. Unfortunately, those bottoms are part of about half the class sets, and I don't know what males could use to make it look better. The shape is definitely really weird, its like... sucked in.. like the hank hill butt.