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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Can you post the before and after with the same top (well no top in the case of the top pic). Clothing does affect the size of body parts.
    Sigh

    Clothing effects the size and shape of the parts of the body it's replacing/ over.
    So yes, your top can give you bigger or small breast and a thinner waist .... but that top aint gonna make your boot glam bigger or smaller unless it's 1 of like 5 cover-all glams.

    To allow the 2B leggings to NOT clip out on tops not designed for a butt that large they made the flat version. Which is all good for things that will completely cover the butt. Problem is that it's behaving like the ruffle skirt where anything that touches it turns it into the 2nd version made to stop clipping.

    I really do hope someone reports this as a bug before I have to try my hand at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    Sigh

    Clothing effects the size and shape of the parts of the body it's replacing/ over.
    So yes, your top can give you bigger or small breast and a thinner waist .... but that top aint gonna make your boot glam bigger or smaller unless it's 1 of like 5 cover-all glams.

    To allow the 2B leggings to NOT clip out on tops not designed for a butt that large they made the flat version. Which is all good for things that will completely cover the butt. Problem is that it's behaving like the ruffle skirt where anything that touches it turns it into the 2nd version made to stop clipping.

    I really do hope someone reports this as a bug before I have to try my hand at it.
    There's no way it's a bug. This was intended. They probably have a setting like with the ruffled skirt, for flat butt. Like a universal setting, for any top that covers or slightly covers or as accessories around the waist. I doubt they would remove flat butt, the only fix would probably be changing settings manually on certain tops.
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    Well i can tell you this....it has reduced my butt further then the default butt ontop of that it does not apply to the RDM / BLM bottoms they are unaffected and remain the same size yet the 2b ones are almost inverted side by side

    hell the bunny bottoms from the gold saucer now give a large butt with the same exact tops that the 2b one shrinks / inverts

    Normal lvl1 top -
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...bNormaltop.png

    Rainbow top of crafting -
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...Rainbowtop.png
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    Last edited by Yasato; 12-11-2019 at 08:24 AM. Reason: Putting pictures to compare

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasato View Post
    Well i can tell you this....it has reduced my butt further then the default butt ontop of that it does not apply to the RDM / BLM bottoms they are unaffected and remain the same size yet the 2b ones are almost inverted side by side

    hell the bunny bottoms from the gold saucer now give a large butt with the same exact tops that the 2b one shrinks / inverts
    I just tested this with the caster bottoms. So, the butt is overall smaller than 2b, BUT with a top like the guardian corps skirt that covers the butt it DOESN'T change! The 2b but with the same top DOES change.

    Why? SE overlooking it?



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    it does change you just cant see it with your jacket.

    lvl 1 top - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...bNormaltop.png

    Rainbow jacket of crafting - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...Rainbowtop.png

    it changes rapidly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasato View Post
    it does change you just cant see it with your jacket.

    lvl 1 top - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...bNormaltop.png

    Rainbow jacket of crafting - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...Rainbowtop.png

    it changes rapidly
    Well you can see it, just easier to notice full size. You did choose a better top to exemplify this though. I think they are just overlooking the actual raid gear, since they also have that transparent glitch. The raid gear, or caster butt is smaller than 2B default (no top that covers).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Well you can see it, just easier to notice full size. You did choose a better top to exemplify this though. I think they are just overlooking the actual raid gear, since they also have that transparent glitch.
    The issue i am taking with this is the fact that they are stating its to stop clipping. Yet here we are all the other ones are fine? they reduced it down beyond even the normal raid gear and for what reason? I mean hell its smaller then a normal butt as well as other bottoms are larger they could of reduced it some what but this? come on now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    There's no way it's a bug. This was intended. They probably have a setting like with the ruffled skirt, for flat butt. Like a universal setting, for any top that covers or slightly covers or as accessories around the waist. I doubt they would remove flat butt, the only fix would probably be changing settings manually on certain tops.
    Yeaaaaaah ... I'm sure this mess with the DRG gear is intended vvv
    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    It's even better because they did break some of the leggins if you mix them with 2b boots. DRG ones for example have a wierd clipping.


    And I remember people saying this was intended ...


    But look at us now.. after bug reports it no longer looks like you're wearing bits of white girl skin on your top.


    It's set like ruffle skirt, that's clear as day. Is this what they meant to have happen? I don't think so as it's even causing issues with other gear.
    Filing a report wont hurt any, acting like a fix to something that was a non-issue for many MANY tops is now acting exactly the way they intended isn't gonna help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    Yeaaaaaah ... I'm sure this mess with the DRG gear is intended vvv



    And I remember people saying this was intended ...


    But look at us now.. after bug reports it no longer looks like you're wearing bits of white girl skin on your top.


    It's set like ruffle skirt, that's clear as day. Is this what they meant to have happen? I don't think so as it's even causing issues with other gear.
    Filing a report wont hurt any, acting like a fix to something that was a non-issue for many MANY tops is now acting exactly the way they intended isn't gonna help.
    Sarcasm? i get it, I do it a lot too. No, I don't think it was intended. I think SE was lazy and overlooked it, now I'll wait for the quotes mad at me for saying "lazy". This is typical SE. 2b was intended. They would have had to manually set flat butt to gear like ruffled skirt. At best, they might try to "save face" and claim it was a bug, rather than their own ineptitude... or maybe some "limitation" nonsense.

    For reference. I already responded to this in the thread about this issue here:

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    What probably happened is they overlooked adjusting raid bottoms, but adjusted the 2b outfit wholly for the flat butt. In doing so using the (now) adjusted 2b boots causes issues with regular raid bottoms.
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Unfortunately, the "fix" for this will probably be nerfing the raid bottom butts now as well.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 12-11-2019 at 09:14 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Sarcasm? i get it, I do it a lot too. No, I don't think it was intended. I think SE was lazy and overlooked it, now I'll wait for the quotes mad at me for saying "lazy". This is typical SE. 2b was intended. They would have had to manually set flat butt to gear like ruffled skirt. At best, they might try to "save face" and claim it was a bug, rather than their own ineptitude... or maybe some "limitation" nonsense.

    For reference. I already responded to this in the thread about this issue here:
    Soo your solution is to bad mouth the devs and pout about it instead of thinking something got messed up along the way?
    Cool, you do you boo boo.

    I think this is a bug or a misstake that if people report and make noise about it will be addressed.
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