Thread: Butt is flat again... Patch 5.15

Originally Posted by Gotsugo

If it wasn't important to some people, then this wouldn't be a thread.

Yeah, it's obviously "important" to some people, but it's not actually important. As in this doesn't matter. This is a huge thread in a matter of a couple days. You don't see other actual issues with the game gain this much traction. SE was probably getting flooded with trash about 2b bottom butts since the patch. I talk a lot of trash about SE's priorities and whatever else, but I actually feel for them having to deal with this.

Originally Posted by Gotsugo

Whether or not you agree or see the notion, it remains that some people think the rear-ends we have are anatomically incorrect and it's a case of immersion to some. Here's an age-old post about the matter.

I don't see people running around in panties like those in my daily life, and people dressed like we are in the red light district breaks my immersion. We can all agree the Hank Hill butt looks awful, but this is so overblown. Hey I like my share of summer and beach glams, but this was just ridiculous.

I also don't understand what you are trying to prove with this picture. Those tops and bottoms are from two different sets. Is that the raid top? If so the raid bottoms that go with still have a butt.

Originally Posted by Gotsugo

Whether or not you agree or see the notion, it remains that some people think the rear-ends we have are anatomically incorrect and it's a case of immersion to some. Here's an age-old post about the matter.

So, thats gotta be a combination of a few things, angle of picture taken outfit. Here's my character, straight on. No adjustments, with the straight pose, not leaning or anything. (Bikini for the profile) Right click, view image to make it bigger.

I'd argue she has a butt that looks fairly natural.

Originally Posted by Gotsugo

You would have to take my word for it, but I actively avoid using certain pairs of shorts or skirts that reveal the backside because when it's revealed it just looks off for lack of better words. You can find old threads on the issue where people too mention that it just looks "off" and it's not pleasant to look at. Though some posterior-enthusiasts detract the point of the threads going on about wanting butts that'd use some flattering but not appropriate adjectives.

If a character's arms were too skinny compared to the rest of them, or the waist too thin for the rest of their bodies, there'd be threads about that too. Taking a look at your join date it's no surprise that you might not know how deeply aged this topic is (ever since relaunch), and if you look into it developers openly admit flatter backsides were for the sake of easing development for new armors.

Are you really going to use a "seniority" argument here?

There are tons of threads, or posts of people complaining about various proportions of bodies, sets, and whatever else.

Originally Posted by Gotsugo

Midlanders overall do look more correct than Miqo'te and Roegadyn. People point to Elezen female suffering from the flat-rears as well.

What do you even mean? All races suffer from flat rears. Au Ra suffer from flat chest, but look like they have a butt because of their pose. Miqo'te even has a couple that make their butt look bigger, try cpose.

I'm surprised that there weren't more male 2b bottom users who were advocating for an "enhanced" bottom.

Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

So, thats gotta be a combination of a few things, angle of picture taken outfit. Here's my character, straight on. No adjustments, with the straight pose, not leaning or anything. (Bikini for the profile) Right click, view image to make it bigger.

I'd argue she has a butt that looks fairly natural.

This is why I love midlanders. They look cute and appealing as your pic proves. On the topic of the butt drama, honestly I never noticed before. I just did the raid and I was actually shocked at the difference, it's almost unappealing the amount it adds to you on it's own. The bodies on our characters just aren't made with a monster butt in mind. It looks slightly off to me. To each their own, but one I rather SE fix everyone's long neck and tiny faces. Elezen's aren't the only one who suffer the long neck issue. It's just more noticeable on them, but we ALL have a monster long neck. Well.. miqos, vieras and au ras anyway. If you don't believe me... make those races with a VERY short hairstle and you'll see it. We all suffer the tiny heads and too long necks and it feels WRONG. It's why I'll never use short hairs on my characters. The necks.

Originally Posted by Omymy

But well, I guess it's still better to focus on that and not on the disastrous PvP system that this game has, the lack of a new healer or how they have destroyed the crafting system.

C'mon now, a lot of people have complained a lot about PvP since always; same with the lack of a new healer. Many are still angry about that.

About crafting, i don't know. I think it's good right now, except for the naughty amount of XP you get by doing anything. Personally, i think it's too much