Thread: Butt is flat again... Patch 5.15

Originally Posted by Rasikko

[Gaslighting is] making someone's decision to do something seem like such a bad and horrible thing that they themselves begin to question the validity of it. It's a rather unfortunate yet very effective form of control(for most people), and an easy way to point out narcissists, as it's part of their way of breaking someone's mind down.

Like let's say you decided to die your hair red, even though I said not to, because I liked it black. I will keep on bringing this up and over-exaggerating how it stupid it was that you died your hair, and will not let it go.

Short definition: You begin to doubt your own thinking.

Yes and no. It's about making the person doubt their thinking - but more about insisting that things didn't happen the way the victim remembers them, or that something that has changed was "always like that", and making the victim doubt their own memory or understanding of what's going on.

Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting

The glam was originally intended to add shape to characters posterior to emulate 2B, this was the purpose of the glam. Now it doesn't even work with actual glamour set it was designed alongside. They changed a fundamental reason the glam was the way it was. They didn't "fix" it they practically deleted it and replaced it with a separate item that goes against the original design philosophy, if its a "fix" its one hell of a failure.

Originally Posted by Frooty

The glam was originally intended to add shape to characters posterior to emulate 2B, this was the purpose of the glam. Now it doesn't even work with actual glamour set it was designed alongside. They changed a fundamental reason the glam was the way it was. They didn't "fix" it they practically deleted it and replaced it with a separate item that goes against the original design philosophy, if its a "fix" its one hell of a failure.

They probably thought fixing a few cases of clipping was more important. They are maybe over-concerned with small graphic issues that would be better off leaving as is because the cost of fixing is too high. Just like how they were probably too afraid of using the transparent effects on clothing because they knew if they used it, it would causes some small visual issues in some rare cases. It disappears when you put it behind another transparent effect like water or glass. So they tried to use a solid color for the lacey/hosiery parts on 2B's dress/YoRHa raid gear just to avoid this issue.

Turns out that a solid color looks terrible on any character without pale skin. Everyone kept saying it just wasn't possible to do a transparent effect on clothing, so it had to be this way. But then SE was able to quickly to put a transparent effect onto 2B's dress/Yorha gear after a lot people complained. I find it unlikely they just suddenly got the ability to do this, so I think they just didn't do it originally for 2B's dress because they were trying to avoid the small issues the transparency causes.

Originally Posted by SturmChurro

That's my thinking, just SE priorities. People are acting like this is and I quote "regression" or censorship, I highly doubt that. Probably just got bug reports about 2b bottoms specifically.

The issue your also brought up makes a lot of sense, according to you since it is multiple longboots that are causing the same effect, it's probably an issue with that skin tone thing. In the other thread I think people said the raid bottoms were also effected in that way. People are trying to co-opt the bug of a completely seperate piece of gear, the various raid bottoms, to call attention on 2b.

I don't know if the longboots issue is related to the transparency thing. If you get behind some kind of transparency effect, the hosiery/sheer parts of the Yorha outfits will disappear and show bare skin underneath:
https://i.imgur.com/fgZAoVv.png
https://i.imgur.com/gKPXiKD.jpg
I only know of two ways to trigger this: walk into an aquarium, or sit atop water. The 5.15 patch notes did warn that these transparent portions on the Yorha equipment will disappear in some situations. I believe it just not possible to show the two different transparency effects together, so that's probably not going to go away unless they go back to only using solid colors, or if they can make big change to the graphics. This maybe why they avoided putting transparency effects onto gear for so long.

Most of the raid bottom glitches I've seen just look like tears in the hose when paired with long boots, but the DRG bottoms are the worst of it from what I've seen.
https://old.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...with_2b_boots/

And apparently can get even worst and cause holes in the legs:
https://old.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ency_a_little/
That maybe an issue with the transparency, but I still don't think it should be doing that. The water/glass shows that is should be just showing the bare skin if its just a transparency issue. That is probably something they will fix.

Originally Posted by Ariane

I don't know if the longboots issue is related to the transparency thing. If you get behind some kind of transparency effect, the hosiery/sheer parts of the Yorha outfits will disappear and show bare skin underneath [...]

Something I've wondered with these various glitches:

1. Water removes the stocking effect

2. DRG leg gear is glitching since the stockings were altered

...so what happens if you go into the water while wearing the glitched stockings?

Originally Posted by MsQi

I took a closer look at it what it's doing now. It looks like it may actually by flatter looking than the "natural" butt.

This is true.
Normal butt
Unaffected Ranged Butt
2B Butt
It was clearly meant to solve clipping with the 1 bride dress or w/e and in that context it would be fine as you can't see it.