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  1. #1
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    Flay_wind's Avatar
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    Lily D'kryl
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    Shiva
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    Dark Knight Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    They only have negligibly lower defense then a proper tank, but having 20% more passive mitigation in exchange for 10K+ less HP is not nearly enough to make up for it.

    Even at full HP I'm nearly dying from tank busters in normal Alexander raids which feels a little wrong when I'm in full 270 gear.
    Devour + Cactguard from OT should cover that to an extent.
    Also theoretically MT can Avail OT and OT can Diamondback at the same time. Avail is on 2 min recast, but with tank swaps i think that's sorta the intended way?
    Sounds clunky as hell, tho.
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    Jets Down
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Flay_wind View Post
    Devour + Cactguard from OT should cover that to an extent.
    Also theoretically MT can Avail OT and OT can Diamondback at the same time. Avail is on 2 min recast, but with tank swaps i think that's sorta the intended way?
    Sounds clunky as hell, tho.
    Very clunky Devour won't be too much issue with 15s duration can get it up long enough in advance Cactgaurd with 1s cast for 6s be a little tighter especially in movement heavy parts.

    Whoever thought casting cds (especially when you only have a few) was a good idea needs a sardine pelted at them
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    Jkap_Goat's Avatar
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    Jkap Goat
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    Gilgamesh
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    Weaver Lv 80
    I'm enjoying blue mage alot, it's so much!
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    ReiMakoto's Avatar
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    Rei Makato
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    Zodiark
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat View Post
    I'm enjoying blue mage alot, it's so much!
    Good for you man, want to explain whats fun about it?
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    Savage Completion Rate ~5%+ of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to savage"
    Ultimate Completion Rate ~1% of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to the hardcore raiders"
    Frontline/ Rival Wings/ Hidden Gorge Mount Aquisition ~0.05-1% of active players. Community: "Ugh PVP is so dead in this game, they should stop investing in it"
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    Nica Kisshu
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Been doing some tanking on BLU for spells and log clear. It really need some help imo.

    First off, the Look is not a good spell for initial pull, short range and takes time to cast, meaning the mobs can hit everyone in the party and your Look might hit only half of the mob as they spread out on the whole party.
    another point is the HP, way to little for tanking.

    These are some suggestions for spell changes when under the effect of Mimicry: Tank

    Mighty Guard: Damage penalty is lowered to 20%, all spells receive "Additional effect: Increase Enmity".
    The damage receive of 40% stays. This will make the damage a tank does actually noticeable and can use different spells/skills to maintain damage such as targeted ranged AoE spells. The counter point would be "wouldn't everyone just go as tank with mighty guard up", but that would sacrifice the crit/direct hit bonus from Mimicry: DPS.

    Devour: Grants a stacking buff that increases the BLUs HP, stacks up to x times. Effect is lost if Mimicry: Tank is turned off.
    Enough stacks that it puts the BLU HP at 150%-180% of current HP.

    The Look: Cast time of zero.
    Makes it a BLU version of Overpower for initial aggro grab when close, removes the cast lag that can mess up targets.

    Frog Legs: Cast time of zero. Additional, puts you 10% higher than the current main target for the monster.
    Should make tank swapping easier and cleaner.

    Cactguard: Can be used on yourself.
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    BLU's DPS actually seems pretty high now thanks to the huge 20% crit/DH buff from their DPS stance.

    Dunno if it's enough to offset how low their "tank" DPS is, though.
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    Rei Makato
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    Zodiark
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    BLU's DPS actually seems pretty high now thanks to the huge 20% crit/DH buff from their DPS stance.

    Dunno if it's enough to offset how low their "tank" DPS is, though.
    Like how their only way to make their dps output "overpowered" is to slap an arbitrary permanent devilment on them
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    Savage Completion Rate ~5%+ of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to savage"
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    They ought to have made it so Veil of Whorl also applies a mild defense buff like GNB's Camoflauge if you're tank mimicry.

    Casted defensive abilities really are clunky as heck in hectic situations. Maybe a side perk for tank mimicry could be removing the cast time from all defensive abilities.
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    Leo Lupinos
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
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    I could use your type of argument over anything we get in this game. This game is more of the same, and that's why we still play it. I mean, what were you actually expecting? Something similar to a normal Job? haha.

    I was actually having so much fun doing dungeons with only BLU. I don't understand what is the difficulty to understand that when BLU was released it was not suited for group play, but now it can. I mean, it have actual roles now, what's the difficulty to stop using this brain dead argument over something that has nothing to do now that BLU is 60 and has complete capabilities to do group content?

    It has 80 actions, were you expecting that every one of them was unique? They are all different and do have a use.

    You can literally learn all the spells in the first try now, what's the complain?

    I want you to answer me what Final Fantasy tittle has a BLue mage that have all actions unique and not just "more of the same".

    I can only see complains. Where is the constructive criticism? Do you imagine anything any better?

    This thread alone is just a waste of time if youre not going to help to feedback the dev team with actual valuable responses. You complaining or not playing the game is actually the same bad end.
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    Last edited by LeoLupinos; 12-12-2019 at 12:34 AM.

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    Zephera Mortera
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    Zalera
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    This thread alone is just a waste of time if youre not going to help to feedback the dev team with actual valuable responses. You complaining or not playing it is actually the same bad end.
    Complaining is feedback and hey, it's not up to the consumer to make things palatable, that's on the producer.

    Also, I wonder what your feedback is? You didn't really state anything other than "BLU is great."
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    Last edited by Zephera; 12-12-2019 at 12:15 AM.

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