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    LeoLupinos's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    The issue is that SE is contradicting themselves with BLU. They are marketing it as "solo" content, but a good majority of it needs to be done with a group. And it's not the traditional being in a group would just make things easier, it's literally, certain aspects of the job are locked behind group activities. And unlike regular jobs, where you can do things solo, but also have the system search for a group when needed, BLU still doesnt have a dedicated DF. Everything is still left up to the player to do. It's disheartening if people can't get on at pique times or aren't that great at the game in general.

    The main gripe people have is that, once the initial hype dies down, so will BLU. It's group content marketed as solo content, which is false. Crafting is true solo content. You can pick that up and put it down at your leisure. I don't think anyone has any glaring issues with their aesthetics, and the spell issues could be overlooked if BLU was the actual solo content SE claimed it was. And if they were truly the OP powerhouse they claimed it was going to be.
    While they had marketed BLU with that, I think it was meant to be solo because of the masked carnivale. All skills that you need to complete can be learned from overworld monsters. BLU being able to do instanced content is just extra fun and content, and optional. All the extra stuff if actually just optional collectibles. So I don't think they had contradicted their initial marketing.

    At least it is what I understood. While not necessarily agreeing with them. I'm all up to more group BLU content. I mean, what's the bad thing about doing group content with BLU? It's fun, and it's what we do with other jobs.

    I agree with the benefit of a dedicated DF. But I can understand why that would not work, players would just get tired of waiting hours of queue and would go to PF intead. But I think a BLU roullete for every intance would be good, excluding extreme and savage of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    While they had marketed BLU with that, I think it was meant to be solo because of the masked carnivale. All skills that you need to complete can be learned from overworld monsters. BLU being able to do instanced content is just extra fun and content, and optional. All the extra stuff if actually just optional collectibles. So I don't think they had contradicted their initial marketing.

    At least it is what I understood. While not necessarily agreeing with them. I'm all up to more group BLU content. I mean, what's the bad thing about doing group content with BLU? It's fun, and it's what we do with other jobs.

    I agree with the benefit of a dedicated DF. But I can understand why that would not work, players would just get tired of waiting hours of queue and would go to PF intead. But I think a BLU roullete for every intance would be good, excluding extreme and savage of course.
    You can't learn all the skills needed for carnivale from the overworld though? You need mind blast and glower to pass quests to unlock it, and I'm pretty certain you need diamondback to clear some missions of it, can only get those from instances.

    I do agree that it should have an auto-matching feature like the DF though, would at least make grouping to do content as BLU a lot easier and more convenient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkEiraStar View Post
    I'd rather appreciate Blue Mage for what it is than complain about what it's not.
    As it is, I don't feel like there's much to appreciate right now in regards to BLU which is disappointing as we all know the devs can do a lot better with it than what we've received.
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    Last edited by Zephera; 12-12-2019 at 01:38 AM.

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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    While they had marketed BLU with that, I think it was meant to be solo because of the masked carnivale. All skills that you need to complete can be learned from overworld monsters. BLU being able to do instanced content is just extra fun and content, and optional. All the extra stuff if actually just optional collectibles. So I don't think they had contradicted their initial marketing.

    At least it is what I understood. While not necessarily agreeing with them. I'm all up to more group BLU content. I mean, what's the bad thing about doing group content with BLU? It's fun, and it's what we do with other jobs.

    I agree with the benefit of a dedicated DF. But I can understand why that would not work, players would just get tired of waiting hours of queue and would go to PF intead. But I think a BLU roullete for every intance would be good, excluding extreme and savage of course.
    The Masked Carnevale is meant to be their version of end game though. The pre-game and end game can't differ to that great of an extant. And as someone else mentioned, several of the "required" spells are from group activities. If every spell was from the overworld, then all would be well, maybe. But the fact that we are forced to group up is a big part of the issue as well. It's neither, solo content with the option to group or group content with the option to solo. It's a continuous back and forth between the two, which gets frustrating when your current "mode" doesn't align with other peoples.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post

    I was actually having so much fun doing dungeons with only BLU. I don't understand what is the difficulty to understand that when BLU was released it was not suited for group play, but now it can. I mean, it have actual roles now, what's the difficulty to stop using this brain dead argument over something that has nothing to do now that BLU is 60 and has complete capabilities to do group content?
    Because they said that Blue was a solo OP job (which is one of the reasons why it was not allowed to be a normal job) yet from the very beginning they put skills behind group content..defeating the purpose of a solo job. Now they have even gone farther away from that concept by putting the majority of the new skills behind group instances and adding "new" content also only for groups..where is the solo OP part that made it limited?

    Why cant they make a normal job out of it then?

    Rei also had made his points in other threads about what could be done (as have other people). This feedback was completely ignored and now they have managed to even make it bad for those that looked forward to doing it solo.

    And yes I do believe that if you put something as limited and has skill collection as one of its few content, that it would give us unique skills.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridwyn View Post
    Honestly make BLU a standard caster. Have us learn the basic kit via Job Quests like everyone else, then have monsters out in the world drop spells that are functionally identical to spells in our base kit and let us pick which 'spell glamour' we want to use.
    Either that or give us the carneval as extra side content where we could then use these extra skills. So we could have a job that can be used in normal content and has fun side content for those that want to gather the skills. And since Blue would be a normal job with a normal weapon, normal gear and normal skills (for dungeons at least) we would not need to be carried like death weight through some of the content..and if we are max lvl then people could even truly solo most of the stuff unsynch.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 12-12-2019 at 08:12 PM.

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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    After trying a bit yesterday, I really wish they just went wild and made BLU an OP mess. I can attempt Savage on any other job; let me curbstomp Brute Justice.
    Also Mimicry needs some improvement. Needs to be a stance, either two separate moves (one like tank stance, one like Cleric Stance)or one move that cycles.
    A positive: I like how some spells look. I like how you made those seals useful to me again (at least for a day!) and I appreciate making THOSE rewards pretty easy to get.

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    I can only see complains. Were is the constructive criticism? Do you imagine anything any better?

    This thread alone is just a waste of time if youre not going to help to feedback the dev team with actual valuable responses. You complaining or not playing it is actually the same bad end.
    There.... Is actual constructive criticism here. Did you read entire thread?
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    I'd rather appreciate Blue Mage for what it is than complain about what it's not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkEiraStar View Post
    I'd rather appreciate Blue Mage for what it is than complain about what it's not.
    Thats perfectly fine, its just a lot of us feel theres not a lot to appreciate
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    Savage Completion Rate ~5%+ of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to savage"
    Ultimate Completion Rate ~1% of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to the hardcore raiders"
    Frontline/ Rival Wings/ Hidden Gorge Mount Aquisition ~0.05-1% of active players. Community: "Ugh PVP is so dead in this game, they should stop investing in it"
    Blue Mage Morbol Mount Aquisition ~0.01% of active players. Community: "WoW bLuE mAgE iS sO fUn AnD aCtIvE i CaN't WaIt FoR mOrE lImItEd JoBs"

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    BLU actually looking kinda strong now tbh. I've never seen Thornmarch hard synced die that fast before. With a full Blu party all of the adds died pretty much instantly in the last phase before they could spread apart. I think we can have at least 5x primal spells loaded now without any that share the same recast so that's a lot of aoe burst potency when everything's up again following a long boss phase change animation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    BLU actually looking kinda strong now tbh. I've never seen Thornmarch hard synced die that fast before. With a full Blu party all of the adds died pretty much instantly in the last phase before they could spread apart. I think we can have at least 5x primal spells loaded now without any that share the same recast so that's a lot of aoe burst potency when everything's up again following a long boss phase change animation.
    A lot of it is front loaded damage due to the primal spell and a few other oGCDs. BLU is real burst, but the damage evens out once the fight drags out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisshu View Post
    A lot of it is front loaded damage due to the primal spell and a few other oGCDs. BLU is real burst, but the damage evens out once the fight drags out.
    You can skip some mechanics in raids with those burst damages tho. Not to mention cheesing with diamondback.
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