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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsien View Post
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    I assume you mean the delayed SAM opener because both the Higa 1st and Midare 1st openers would be considered the “early openers” in this. ^^;

    Regarding Shifu and Jinpu falling off before reapplication and royally screwing the entire rotation, that’s a pretty extreme example statement, especially since this particular instance would only happen a handful of times in a fight with full uptime (mainly due to the Tinc window). Not only that, but in the delayed opener given, the moment both buffs fall off is the moment they’re reapplied (you literally press Shifu as the buff falls offs). Even if Shifu falls off before it’s reapplied and the next CD lasts for .32secs (give or take depending on your sks), you’re telling me that’s enough to mess everything up later down the line and that there’s zero adjustments that can be made? As for the Jinpu matter, that’s literally the same as the Twin Snakes optimization that MNKs do, and since it’s a 40sec buff, it’s not nearly as constant since there’s almost no other time it should fall off in a full uptime scenario (outside of Tinc windows).

    That said, I can’t particularly say too much more with matters involving drift (excluding the bit about Higa completely falling out of alignment with raid buffs since it’s used smack dab in the middle of all of them in the delayed alignment), as that is dependent of both one’s rotation and sks. However, given how flexible SAM is, I find it hard to believe that there’s nothing that can be done about this, nor can I believe that severe drift can be assumed to happen at a glance.

    Lastly, I find the mention of the one GCD delay regarding the delayed opener from the other two as a bit contradictory since the same can be said in regards to Tsubame. What I mean is, it’s already well known that you’d use the Midare 1st opener over the Higa 1st if doing so would gain you an extra Tsubame (which again, is similar to the core idea around all of the delayed openers). The delayed SAM opener is essentially the third counterpart part in the series. If you won’t lose a Midare and/or Tsubame cast, then use it. If you will, then go for one of the other two. Hell, the Midare first opener can actually work pretty well with the delayed raid timings if you move some oGCDs around.

    EDIT: One thing that I will admit is that the placement of Senei and Meikyo for the delayed opener should be swapped (double weaving Meikyo with Kaiten would also work, but ick, clipping). The reason is, with Meikyo being used after Tsubame, it's very likely to clash with Kaiten. Just took the time to switch it, so at the very least, thank you for giving me a reason to reevaluate that.
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    Last edited by Oxdarock; 01-25-2020 at 02:02 AM.

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