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    dinnertime's Avatar
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    Aurelius Lyon
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Just as all damage skills on healers were originally useless without Cleric Stance. Yet they changed those to work off Mind, just as Vercure works off Intelligence. So why not do the same for Physick?
    Personally, I think SMN doesn't need an INT-based Physick. That would just basically make RDM more irrelevant than it is now with it being the same as Vercure but slightly better. Not only that, SMN has a 30% shield that is more frequent than a BLM's Manaward at the cost of their Egi's damage.
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    Payadopa's Avatar
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    Payadopa Astraya
    World
    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 71
    Honestly, SMN needs a rework. I'm close to cap and I can't do it anymore... Bahamut and Phoenix are awesome but the three pets and the general rotation... boy, do they suck. /sigh
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    Silverquick Fox
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    It is functionally useless past 50th. But remember this game has gone on a lot longer than just patch 5.05. And I hardly think the primary concern of the Devs is Physick for Summoners at this point.

    But then again.... Its not useless if you're below 50th, and lets face it, you spend a LOT of time in ARR before you ever touch an expansion, plus there are a lot of MSQ instances including Job related ones where this was already calculated into the difficulty level under the assumption you can use it.

    That initial campaign with after adventures is loooooonnng.

    It also used to be something you could spam on your Pet too back when as Titan Egi (and the others) used to have Health. They don't anymore.

    Now I don't presume to know everything there ever was to know about SCH, for me that was only a class unlock just to learn what it was about, after all its free to Summoner Players, and that was my Main, Nowadays I swap between SMN and RDM depending on what I want to use.

    I never played SCH seriously even back then. But doing so helped me to see how bad SCH players got screwed.
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    It's been crap since 2.0 and should have been gone or have a trait that allows it to scale off of Int a long time ago.

    OR

    Back when you could heal your own pet via Sustain, they could have had a trait that turned Physic into sustain. But small, indie company etc.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Character
    Evelynn Outreguerlain
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Always loved the excuse of "because it comes from ACN so SMN HAS to get it." What about all the ACN moves SCH misses out on? Seems kind of hypocritical that SMN HAS to have all of ACN's moves, including 1 that is literally useless, but the only thing SCH gets is a heal that is overshadowed as soon as they get adlo and lustrate, a raise, and bio.
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

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    Character
    Claire Reddfield
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    Once upon a time you could actually strike a balance between damage and healing. Buffs could be made to crit heal for almost 6000, while still being useful in the dps department. Summoner was good then. And then stormblood happened, and everyone became a cookie cutter and builds that took priceless calculations and melding of materia was killed off by role actions. RIP Summoner
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