It just occurred to me . . . .

[Vahlnir]

It won't really matter much except "oh hey, new console". They seem content to idle in the game's current limitations instead of upgrading what needs upgrading, so...I'm not gonna get my hopes up that a new generation of consoles will mean much for FF XIV.

[SturmChurro]

Don't know why it would matter if it was coming to PS5. I thought they announced XBOX, and since next gen is coming out, you would assume they mean the next xbox.

Most mmorpgs look like trash due to low end trash pc.

[MrKusakabe]

Most mmorpgs look like trash due to low end trash pc.

Unlike consoles, I've never heard a company saying "Due to some player's bad PC specs, we are having limitation X because we don't want to lock out people". I just heard it with consoles that are hardstuck with their hardware. So either I understood you wrong or you worded it poorly. Also, PC players can have different bottlenecks that you can solve by changing options (e.g. video memory, GPU power, CPU power, RAM,...) while the options on a console are built-around the fixed specs.


Console = If bad, then bad. And the weakest chain in the link.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Unlike consoles, I've never heard a company saying "Due to some player's bad PC specs, we are having limitation X because we don't want to lock out people". I just heard it with consoles that are hardstuck with their hardware. So either I understood you wrong or you worded it poorly. Also, PC players can have different bottlenecks that you can solve by changing options (e.g. video memory, GPU power, CPU power, RAM,...) while the options on a console are built-around the fixed specs.


Console = If bad, then bad. And the weakest chain in the link.

Compare the minimum PC specs with the specs for a PS4 and tell me again which is holding the game back.

[Crushnight]

Unlike consoles, I've never heard a company saying "Due to some player's bad PC specs, we are having limitation X because we don't want to lock out people". I just heard it with consoles that are hardstuck with their hardware. So either I understood you wrong or you worded it poorly. Also, PC players can have different bottlenecks that you can solve by changing options (e.g. video memory, GPU power, CPU power, RAM,...) while the options on a console are built-around the fixed specs.


Console = If bad, then bad. And the weakest chain in the link.

Literally FFXIV did this for Shadowbringers;

"We are dropping 32-bit support please upgrade if you want to continue playing", they wouldn't have done this if there wasn't enough of an issue in continuing support be it design, money cost what have you.

No console lost support this expansion only PC spec, small i'll grant you but PC themselves can be the weak link too it all depends on that minimum spec requirement.

[Kirsten_Rev]

Compare the minimum PC specs with the specs for a PS4 and tell me again which is holding the game back.

I'll go with the unmentioned Option C: the discontinued platform, PS3 (or at least, that's the clearest example we've seen yet of a weak link).

It's also worth pointing out that minimum specs aren't a good barometer for whether PCs are 'holding a game back' or not. Unlike on fixed-hardware consoles, SE doesn't need to ensure that minimum specs for a PC provide a good experience - just a nominally playable one. As such, they're almost always lower than they should be. Recommended specs are a far better view into what a developer things a game needs to run properly, and lo and behold, those blow stock PS4 hardware out of the water (in fact, they're roughly what you'd see if you were trying to match up with PS4 Pro hardware).

Literally FFXIV did this for Shadowbringers;

"We are dropping 32-bit support please upgrade if you want to continue playing", they wouldn't have done this if there wasn't enough of an issue in continuing support be it design, money cost what have you.

No console lost support this expansion only PC spec, small i'll grant you but PC themselves can be the weak link too it all depends on that minimum spec requirement.

Something is only a 'weak link' if it meaningfully impacts development decisions for an individual title. A basic prerequisite for this condition to arise: the number of impacted users has to be significant enough to justify the development compromises. The 32-bit PC crowd is most assuredly not large enough for that. While we lack hardware statistics for XIV players in particular (or at least, I'm not aware of them if they exist), it's highly likely that SE wouldn't lose an appreciable number of customers until and unless they began pushing system requirements beyond the capabilities of a PS4, at which point that platform would definitely be more of a loss.

All this to say, PC as a platform is almost never a weak link from a hardware perspective. Occasionally weaker PCs may fall behind, but the numbers aren't large enough to restrict developers.

[RitsukoSonoda]

I'll go with the unmentioned Option C: the discontinued platform, PS3 (or at least, that's the clearest example we've seen yet of a weak link).

It's also worth pointing out that minimum specs aren't a good barometer for whether PCs are 'holding a game back' or not. Unlike on fixed-hardware consoles, SE doesn't need to ensure that minimum specs for a PC provide a good experience - just a nominally playable one. As such, they're almost always lower than they should be. Recommended specs are a far better view into what a developer things a game needs to run properly, and lo and behold, those blow stock PS4 hardware out of the water (in fact, they're roughly what you'd see if you were trying to match up with PS4 Pro hardware).


Something is only a 'weak link' if it meaningfully impacts development decisions for an individual title. A basic prerequisite for this condition to arise: the number of impacted users has to be significant enough to justify the development compromises. The 32-bit PC crowd is most assuredly not large enough for that. While we lack hardware statistics for XIV players in particular (or at least, I'm not aware of them if they exist), it's highly likely that SE wouldn't lose an appreciable number of customers until and unless they began pushing system requirements beyond the capabilities of a PS4, at which point that platform would definitely be more of a loss.

All this to say, PC as a platform is almost never a weak link from a hardware perspective. Occasionally weaker PCs may fall behind, but the numbers aren't large enough to restrict developers.

That's the big thing there about PC requirements. It's minimal spec to just run the game in a stable state. The game could be running at 30fps on minimal display settings to achieve that stability. Where as static spec consoles have an expected visual quality attached to them

[Rasikko]

Don't know why it would matter if it was coming to PS5. I thought they announced XBOX, and since next gen is coming out, you would assume they mean the next xbox.

Most mmorpgs look like trash due to low end trash pc.

YOU STOP TALKING BAD ABOUT MY DUMPSTER TOP LAPTOP. I GET BY JUST FINE PLAYING AT 2FPS.


In all seriousness, this never means anything other than expanding the audience the game will be available to.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

WHEN it Does (Not even a question) It'll be neat.
FFXIV's will have been on 3 PS console generations. The real question is, will we get these HD Textures that people have been rambling about that we "Need" so much?

[SpecialTaskForce]

Consoles are worthless people, stick to PC!