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  1. #11
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    Not a pre-order item, but I'd like to see the all-classes Onion Helm put on mog station. All the other collectors edition items are available for sale, so why not 1.0s? It's a bit weird that the classic versitile class glamour is only available to tanks. If 1.0 stuff has got to remain special then I would like a new non-role locked Onion set since its such a classic class
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  2. #12
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    There is already a non-tank alternate onion helm available in the game, the Peregrine Helm, although that is far less likely to find (as it's a very rare chance a retainer venture will bring it back, the Red Onion Helm which is only for tanks is far more common - I've had three Red Onion Helms found through retainer ventures and never once had the Peregrine Helm drop).

    Although I wouldn't be against SE adding the Onion Helm and Garlond Goggles to the game (it would at least put an end to the ridiculous price gouging of sealed/unused copies of FFXIV 1.0 going for sale on sites like eBay simply for the item vouchers), I'm pretty sure SE just aren't interested in making them available (after all, the huge stink that occured over making available 1.0 Manderville and White Raven earrings again during the Rising a few years ago probably killed off any chance of more 'old' items from 1.0 becoming available again through other means.).
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 12-08-2019 at 07:46 AM.

  3. #13
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    (after all, the huge stink that occured over making available 1.0 Manderville and White Raven earrings again during the Rising a few years ago probably killed off any chance of more 'old' items from 1.0 becoming available again through other means.).
    They corrected themselves on that, though - the version released on MogStation is a separate "replica" version so you can't buy the original. (ie. What should have been done for the Rising in the first place.)

    The main reason people objected was that the "proof of achievement" items were being given away to people who didn't earn the achievement. Nobody kicked up the same degree of fuss when the replicas went up for sale later.
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  4. #14
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    King Canadane
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    If they start giving away preorder bonus items after the fact, why bother preordering?
    Yeah people like us that are currently playing may do so, but someone not currently subbed that may be on the fence coming back for an expansion, the preorder items may push them over to the sale side. If it's known that the items would be otherwise available again, they may not bother preordering and may not order at all after the pre-release hype dies off.
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  5. #15
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    Bellsong's Avatar
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    Wondrous Waifu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    If they start giving away preorder bonus items after the fact, why bother preordering?
    Yeah people like us that are currently playing may do so, but someone not currently subbed that may be on the fence coming back for an expansion, the preorder items may push them over to the sale side. If it's known that the items would be otherwise available again, they may not bother preordering and may not order at all after the pre-release hype dies off.
    This has to be an incredibly small amount of players agaisnt the amount who just want, like, the game.

    So small infact that I don't see any reason not to have pre-order items available again, hell you can buy the digital collectors edition stuff separate, just throw the earrings into that and call it a day.
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  6. #16
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    Buying a CE is different than preordering it though.
    Perhaps the people who only want the game on its own are care not for bonus items is small, maybe not. But regardless, it'll defeat the purpose of the preorder bonus items entirely if they're given out another way.
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  7. #17
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    If they start giving away preorder bonus items after the fact, why bother preordering?
    Because visually-unique items being lost forever and out of reach to anyone who wasn't there at the time is disappointing. If these were real limited-edition items released with the game, it would be possible to buy them secondhand if you wanted them. There's no way to do that with account-locked items - and no manufacturing costs involved in making more.

    I don't even expect the EXP bonus. Just make the items available again as statless, functionless glamour items.

    The Baron set is really pretty, and I've seen maybe two people using it the entire time I've been here.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Buying a CE is different than preordering it though.
    Perhaps the people who only want the game on its own are care not for bonus items is small, maybe not. But regardless, it'll defeat the purpose of the preorder bonus items entirely if they're given out another way.
    Tell that to mass effect 2.

    Nothing of value is lost when a preorder bonus is sold later.

    You can get digital collectors edition items far after the collectors edition is not being made or sold anymore, doesn't really make them collectors anymore, does it? So why should a pre order bonus be held in a higher regard?

    I know you have a boner for exclusivity, but come on now.
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  9. #19
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Tell that to mass effect 2.

    Nothing of value is lost when a preorder bonus is sold later.

    You can get digital collectors edition items far after the collectors edition is not being made or sold anymore, doesn't really make them collectors anymore, does it? So why should a pre order bonus be held in a higher regard?

    I know you have a boner for exclusivity, but come on now.
    You can get the in-game CE items sold with the digital CE. You can't get the physical ones.

    Besides, whats wrong with exclusivity? these earrings are something that anyone playing the game should have, since you know, pre-ordering costs nothing and you clearly like teh game since you are playing.

    If you are new, you don't really need the item, you should be going through content that will level you up as you go. Personally, i think they should stop giving out exp items as a pre-order bonus altogether, it takes no time at all to level anymore as it is.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 12-08-2019 at 04:21 PM.

  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    You can get the in-game CE items sold with the digital CE. You can't get the physical ones.
    You still can; from other people, but yes, I'm talking about the digital ones.

    There's nothing wrong it exclusivity in places, I just always thought it was dumb that in FFXIV pre order bonus items are these precious gems but collectors edition bonus items are somehow not, it never made any sense. I think they should both just be purchasable after the fact at some point, because ultimately what is the loss except for the babies handful of players that pre-ordered purely for the bonus item?
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    Last edited by Bellsong; 12-08-2019 at 04:31 PM.

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