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    Billythepancake's Avatar
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    Overall, it's a neat idea, one thing though. Why get rid of recitation? That's the 1 thing about ShB SCH I like. REEEEE. And, maybe I missed it, but, what exactly is the point of having different types of aetherflow? I can understand different things recharging it, or charging them in a different way, but, why have 3 different types that just replace each other?
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

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    Quilia Labro
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    "You can activate Whispering Dawn and Fey Illumniation for his hotbar", I like this rework already. Slap on the Embrace and the Embrace-likes with potencies up to "noticable" or above levels and I'd give you full endorsement.

    More dots and ways to manipulate are always welcome, in fact don't be afraid to add even more. Which is why I wonder why Bane and Art of Poison are so high up. It makes no difference at max level, but both when desynced and for someone playing first time think core tools that help soloing and non-healing bouts could be acquired earlier. Same with Aetherflow, pushing it back to level 6 with traits of Aetherdamme spread out so you get three stacks at level 30.

    Having Art of War live up to it's name and making you think a bit further is a great change. Putting more difference in the fairies is a great plus and that run speed buff on Fey Wind, any chance for a return of Caress?. Most fun surprise is definitly Feo Ul and how we could convice them to join us (as in we don't summon her from the aether but jealousy rivalry between them and Lily is so strong they can't bear being out at the same time) with a Joker-ish skillset of bombs and Feo Ul's sneering laughter. What monster does not feel their body fill with burning shame when mocked by a pixie? Filling the ears of your enemeis with derisive scorn of a pixies snicker. Their bodies shall become clumsy and foolish, easily struck and confidence shall be leeched from their muscles, weakning their blows.

    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    Overall, it's a neat idea, one thing though. Why get rid of recitation? That's the 1 thing about ShB SCH I like. REEEEE. And, maybe I missed it, but, what exactly is the point of having different types of aetherflow? I can understand different things recharging it, or charging them in a different way, but, why have 3 different types that just replace each other?
    I can join with lamentation for Dissipation, but only if Embrace, or Embraces was powerful as they used to be. Reason I could see to remove Recitation would be to remove Catalyze as we can't force crit anymore, but that seems to be still in. Maybe deliberate.
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    Ceasaria Pheonixia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lodi View Post
    Interesting ideas, and I fully support the idea of putting back shorter DoTs. Having to maintain two 15s dots sure feels more interesting than one for 30s.

    And the Art of War CD is really original, I love the idea.
    As Eamett said, SCH would have one DoT at 15s (Bio --> Bio II --> Arsenic) and one at 30s (Miasma --> Cyanide).
    Player would use his third DoT Miasma II instead of Ruin II to weave, but if after he has to weave again then he should use Ruin II (Art of War can serve this purpose too because of the spells Science and Steel being instant).
    For Art of War, it's a reference to Alka Zolka. Maybe I don't have the right names in english, but in french he says "Science et Acier" which is translated as "Science and Steel". Thanks for the appreciation !

    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    Overall, it's a neat idea, one thing though. Why get rid of recitation? That's the 1 thing about ShB SCH I like. REEEEE. And, maybe I missed it, but, what exactly is the point of having different types of aetherflow? I can understand different things recharging it, or charging them in a different way, but, why have 3 different types that just replace each other?
    In fact, Recitation (renamed Angelic Benediction) is still here and you have 3 charges with Seraph
    It's a good point you mention here about the 3 types of Aetherflow. I was thinking about separating the normal Aetherflow from the two others, but because I wanted Angelic Aetherflow and Pixie Aetherflow to be powerful, I had to find a counterpart. I think the other reason is because I didn't want player be bothered with two different Aetherflow at the same time. I had maybe other reasons but I don't remember for now. I will think about it, thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sloprano View Post
    "You can activate Whispering Dawn and Fey Illumniation for his hotbar", I like this rework already. Slap on the Embrace and the Embrace-likes with potencies up to "noticable" or above levels and I'd give you full endorsement.

    More dots and ways to manipulate are always welcome, in fact don't be afraid to add even more. Which is why I wonder why Bane and Art of Poison are so high up. It makes no difference at max level, but both when desynced and for someone playing first time think core tools that help soloing and non-healing bouts could be acquired earlier. Same with Aetherflow, pushing it back to level 6 with traits of Aetherdamme spread out so you get three stacks at level 30.

    Having Art of War live up to it's name and making you think a bit further is a great change. Putting more difference in the fairies is a great plus and that run speed buff on Fey Wind, any chance for a return of Caress?. Most fun surprise is definitly Feo Ul and how we could convice them to join us (as in we don't summon her from the aether but jealousy rivalry between them and Lily is so strong they can't bear being out at the same time) with a Joker-ish skillset of bombs and Feo Ul's sneering laughter. What monster does not feel their body fill with burning shame when mocked by a pixie? Filling the ears of your enemeis with derisive scorn of a pixies snicker. Their bodies shall become clumsy and foolish, easily struck and confidence shall be leeched from their muscles, weakning their blows.
    I can understand for the Embrace actions being not powerful as it was before. I could maybe up the potency but it will be not much. If you have noticed, with Fey Deployment, you can guide the heal of Embracing Aurora with your Medecine/Science as it was before with macro. Maybe I should do it to with Embrace from Eos and Selene ?
    I see, you want more actions accessible at low levels. I will look into it if it's possible without creating a gap in leveling process.
    About Feo Ul, it was what I was hoping for Shadowbringers for SCH. I hope, for the next expansion we will get her. There is really something to do with Pixies !
    Thanks for your comment !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    All I want is one expansion where they reanalyze the jobs and make massive adjustments to unhomogenize them. This is Final Fantasy 14 not Club penguin I dont wish for jobs that only have 5 buttons going for them or play exactly the same as 2/3 other jobs.
    Quote Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura View Post
    This current card system needs to be unwritten, destroyed and never returned.