Limited Job #2: Beastmaster

[Bright-Flower]

I don't personally mind limited jobs, but I can understand if someone is a big fan of blue mage or beast master, and would rather see the jobs molded into a standard job instead, where it can be used in all content, rather than keeping its uniqueness but being relegated to side content.

[Hanayumi]

I would absolutely love to have Beastmaster in the game. My favorite class in Dragon Age Origins was the Ranger, who could have animals (that leveled up into better/stronger forms) with them. Please don't limit it like BLU. That was a colossal waste of resources/time IMHO. Let them learn certain spells yes, or tame certain animals, but the thing that killed BLU was that they can't do anything with everyone else because they're always 20 levels behind.

Well thats the issue Devs have with jobs like Bluemage and Beastmaster though, they dont progress like all the other regular jobs, they require you to do more than just level from a to b like the other jobs and the Devs basically dont find it fair for a job to be like that, not to mention it would cause other issues. Yoshida gave an example that if they made Blu a full on job then parties for raid and what not would then have stuff like "you must have so and so skill to join as blu," and beastmaster would be on the same boat as you would need to tame and train your beasts. A working full on bluemage job would basically have to loose the learn aspect and have you learn via level like all the other jobs, you could "learn" via like job quest or maybe they could have "learn" as an actual skill that just pulls a random skill from a small pool of skill but it just wouldnt work like how it does now. So yeah full job Beastmaster would have to learn its skills via level, then have maybe it would couple set beasts you can call into battle similar to SMN more focused around your weapon with the beast aspect just being tagged on.

[jon041065]

Well thats the issue Devs have with jobs like Bluemage and Beastmaster though, they dont progress like all the other regular jobs, they require you to do more than just level from a to b like the other jobs and the Devs basically dont find it fair for a job to be like that, not to mention it would cause other issues. Yoshida gave an example that if they made Blu a full on job then parties for raid and what not would then have stuff like "you must have so and so skill to join as blu," and beastmaster would be on the same boat as you would need to tame and train your beasts. A working full on bluemage job would basically have to loose the learn aspect and have you learn via level like all the other jobs, you could "learn" via like job quest or maybe they could have "learn" as an actual skill that just pulls a random skill from a small pool of skill but it just wouldnt work like how it does now. So yeah full job Beastmaster would have to learn its skills via level, then have maybe it would couple set beasts you can call into battle similar to SMN more focused around your weapon with the beast aspect just being tagged on.

Can call them advance jobs and have plenty of "warnings" in game that they require more effort to get up and running compared to standard jobs. Sure it might not be "fair" but it would be up to the player instead of the devs deciding for us.

Also you already have required spells to run the "new" blu content so that excuse is even more debunked now.

[Lambdafish]

Can call them advance jobs and have plenty of "warnings" in game that they require more effort to get up and running compared to standard jobs. Sure it might not be "fair" but it would be up to the player instead of the devs deciding for us.

Also you already have required spells to run the "new" blu content so that excuse is even more debunked now.

Other than the spells given to you through progression, what spells are required?

[jon041065]

Other than the spells given to you through progression, what spells are required?

Spells you are required to get to do blu quests: Blood Drain, Mind Blast, Faze, 1000 Needles, Glower, Northerlies, Whistle, Exuviation, and Frog Legs

Spells you get from the quests and carnivale: Water Cannon, White Wind, Off-guard, Transfusion, Mighty Guard, Moon Flute, Doom, Revenge Blast, and Angel Whisper

If you can show me a group that have got their malboro mounts just using these spells then I'll definitely admit to being wrong about this point.

[Reinha]

Other than the spells given to you through progression, what spells are required?

You need Diamondback to survive at least one level of the Masked Carnevale.

[Jandor]

I'd prefer it as a real job, but if it's released at least at a similar level to 5.1 BLU and they can run content together I'd be ok with limited BST.

By run together I mean mixed BST + BLU parties would be able to do the special content revival stuff, from basics like farming skills & collecting pets to teaming up to get the Morbol together.

[HiroesX81]

Remove the "Limited job" moniker and people will calm down. Everyone thinks theyd main blu mage but thats a self imposed lie. Havin another caster put in would throw everything off balance much more if its the way blu works. Just add more content to it. I wouldnt mind Beast Master as an "Extra job"

I had fun with BLU, still do. I like it as is. These forums arent a good representation of what people want. Just look at how vastly critizised Eureka was in difference to how people actually recieved it. The proof is in the data

[jon041065]

Remove the "Limited job" moniker and people will calm down. Everyone thinks theyd main blu mage but thats a self imposed lie. Havin another caster put in would throw everything off balance much more if its the way blu works. Just add more content to it. I wouldnt mind Beast Master as an "Extra job"

I had fun with BLU, still do. I like it as is. These forums arent a good representation of what people want. Just look at how vastly critizised Eureka was in difference to how people actually recieved it. The proof is in the data

Doubt many would "calm down" if the limited job moniker was removed or changed. It wouldn't change that we want to actually play blue mage in the game as a whole instead of just as a piece of side content.

Your right that the forums aren't a good representation of what most players are feeling. The majority by far don't care about blue mage one way or the other. As for those of us that care enough to talk about it on the forums, seems there's a bit more that would like blue mage to be a full job. That doesn't mean to cut limited blu from the game (a few would like that) but to have full blu as one of the 6.0 jobs.

[DynnDiablos]

Doubt many would "calm down" if the limited job moniker was removed or changed. It wouldn't change that we want to actually play blue mage in the game as a whole instead of just as a piece of side content.

Your right that the forums aren't a good representation of what most players are feeling. The majority by far don't care about blue mage one way or the other. As for those of us that care enough to talk about it on the forums, seems there's a bit more that would like blue mage to be a full job. That doesn't mean to cut limited blu from the game (a few would like that) but to have full blu as one of the 6.0 jobs.

I am just wondering if it is going to be a gradual thing where Blue goes from Limited to Full over time.