[Request] Underwear Customisation!

[rachcouture]

No, it is not discriminatory. Leave that garbage on tumblr, please.
If him saying he wants to see less skimpy roes is "discriminatory" then you saying you want to see more is also discriminatory because you're ignoring the opinions of others in the way you're accusing him of. Don't be a hypocrite.

Sounds like personal hangups to me. Not a really good place to cast judgment from.

[Fawkes]

Pretty sure Yoshi already said no to this, saying it would be too hard because the underwear isn't gear, it's just the naked character model.

They'd need to completely change the way being naked works, and it's already easy to just glamour other underwear-looking things over it. Changing it doesn't really serve a purpose since there's no reason to take your gear off. If you want to RP taking off your clothes you can just switch from pants gear to a swimsuit bottom or subligar.

[CazzT]

It is - and it also has nothing to do with tumblr, either.

If you're fine with scantily clad female characters being present in the game then you should be fine with scantily clad male characters also being present. What are you so afraid of?

Roegadyn don't even do anything for me. I think they're way too oversized, comically so in fact. Though it doesn't bother me if people want to run around as scantily clad roegadyn and reading between the lines it's pretty clear what the real issue is in these sorts of one sided cases.

No, it is not. You're being a hypocrite. You're telling someone they're being a bigot because they want to see less of something. There is nothing bigoted or discriminatory about that. But if you're going to maintain that there is, then it is equally discriminatory to want to force others to see what you want to see. Also, he said nothing about seeing more or less of skimpy female outfits, you just made the assumption he does. You're in the wrong here, Theo.

Sounds like personal hangups to me. Not a really good place to cast judgment from.

I agree. Which is why I'm pointing out the hypocrisy. There's nothing wrong with wanting to see more or less of something. But the accusation of bigotry is uncalled for.

[SturmChurro]

Hmm.... Hmm.. Amateur judge here in my armchair.. I have read over this line of conversations. The lalafell only said he didn't like roe butt cheeks, replying to a male roe, he didn't necessarily mean all males. It could be misconstrued as meaning all males, but most definitely the entire race, or male gender, of roes should feel discriminated against for being judged for showing off their short legs and flat behind!

[rachcouture]

No, it is not. You're being a hypocrite. You're telling someone they're being a bigot because they want to see less of something. There is nothing bigoted or discriminatory about that. But if you're going to maintain that there is, then it is equally discriminatory to want to force others to see what you want to see. Also, he said nothing about seeing more or less of skimpy female outfits, you just made the assumption he does. You're in the wrong here, Theo.

I agree. Which is why I'm pointing out the hypocrisy. There's nothing wrong with wanting to see more or less of something. But the accusation of bigotry is uncalled for.

He didn't call anyone a bigot, though; he just said it's discriminatory to be okay with it for one gender, and not for the other, which it often is in this situation since it tends to coincide with a fear of all things LGBT. It's still a pretty common insecurity.

That said, as a girl that likes cute lingerie: undergarment equip slots are super underrated. I wish more games had them.

[Shougun]

Lol lemme get those spangled sublies out- I can just see Reinheart at the SE offices nodding with a big grin.

[Gemina]

Hello!

I doubt that I'm the only one who wishes that they could change the underwear worn by their character. Could we please have a broader range of underwear to choose from, or at least gain the ability to dye what we have already?

I never really put much thought to it. I guess I just can't think of many reasons to strip my character totally down that this would be an issue for me, and even if I did there are plenty of top and bottom combinations that can be dyed that I could use to simulate having different kinds of undergarments. I am not sure how many options males have in this regard, but there's quite a few to choose from for the ladies. I suppose the downside to that is that I can't choose another leg and body slot to wear over those selections.

I don't think it is an outlandish request, but seeing it in future patch notes would have a lot of players scratching their heads thinking, "Did we really need this?" It would probably have to come along with a complete CC overhaul. Perhaps a time will come where they will feel they need to.

[Shougun]

It's discriminatory. Why would you have an issue with scantily clad male characters but not scantily clad female characters?

I agree with this (bias be bias), but wanted to add that I think under solo play circumstances there is nothing wrong with discriminating (man that's a Boogeyman word to use lol, feels funny saying it but stick with me XD). Like if I only install huge male argonian muscles and fine Spears mods in Skyrim. Adding to the works of Crassius Curio- not ever updating the other choices. Heck maybe even removing all the other race/options from the game. Whatever, my game my rules. Lol. But since this is a multiplayer game discrimination impacts like chocobos smells. At the end of the day we'll have to have some discrimination in multiplayer but hopefully it suits the game and it's players well (or at least SE does have to make these choices- not so much us particularly, because resources are not infinite). I suppose that's one of the reasons why I try to actively avoid being SE's finical arbiter lol- a. I'm obviously not so it's a bit silly but also b. I don't want to actively kill someone else's enjoyment if I can help it / easily ignore it. (Also nuance / not threatening on asking for things and bla blah but that's for a different post lol).



Certainly selfishly the game could be designed to every bias I have and no other, but then only those exactly like me would play... Not a very good business strategy unless you're going for niche from the onset like some games and media do (like how games are for certain types of players or media made for certain perspectives/desires). Maybe a bit obvious but easy picking example would be adult content, exclusive preferences are okay (bias).



Just wanted to say having bias isn't necessarily bad, and even using it isn't always bad, but it of course it /could/ be bad / annoying to someone lol. Like if I love airships but someone else thinks they are a waste of resources, obviously people tend to have more on the line personally with outfits and all that expression stuff but I thought that airships be a neutral example.



Anyway men and women in undies, the same undies even, is fine with me- but if someone gave me keys to the castle and said do you want either lingerie on men or player owned physical airships... I'd not think twice on picking the later. At the same time very rarely are things presented as / actually that simple (and I try not to play that either or game). Ideally I'd just say I don't really care for the first but if there is enough demand... Why not both?

[SannaR]

I want to say that when the Hempen set question got asked and confused with the underwear we see everyone wear when nude the answer was they couldn't because it's like grafted to the skin or something. So even though I'd like it if each race didn't have the same boring underwear you wouldn't be able to change it out as there's no slot for it now unlike 1.0 where the hempen sets were the underwear and had slots for them.

[LineageRazor]

Throw in my support for at least being able to dye the things. The white stands out like a floodlight against my character's dark skin, and as others have pointed out, flashes do happen unless you glamour very conservatively. I'd rather those flashes be a bit more subdued.