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    rachcouture's Avatar
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    Taylor Swiftsong
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    No, it is not discriminatory. Leave that garbage on tumblr, please.
    If him saying he wants to see less skimpy roes is "discriminatory" then you saying you want to see more is also discriminatory because you're ignoring the opinions of others in the way you're accusing him of. Don't be a hypocrite.
    Sounds like personal hangups to me. Not a really good place to cast judgment from.
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    Kohl Grimalkin
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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    No, it is not discriminatory. Leave that garbage on tumblr, please.
    If him saying he wants to see less skimpy roes is "discriminatory" then you saying you want to see more is also discriminatory because you're ignoring the opinions of others in the way you're accusing him of. Don't be a hypocrite.
    Theodric's comment is not discriminatory at all, Magnedeus is entitled to, and has expressed, their opinion, it isn't being suppressed. It is being challenged on whether or not it is a discriminatory opinion.

    It was pointed out that this is a public forum, this is true, and when anyone speaks publicly, they are subject to the reaction of their words. The consequence of communicating is that it opens up opinions to being challenged.

    This is the way.
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It's discriminatory. Why would you have an issue with scantily clad male characters but not scantily clad female characters?

    I agree with this (bias be bias), but wanted to add that I think under solo play circumstances there is nothing wrong with discriminating (man that's a Boogeyman word to use lol, feels funny saying it but stick with me XD). Like if I only install huge male argonian muscles and fine Spears mods in Skyrim. Adding to the works of Crassius Curio- not ever updating the other choices. Heck maybe even removing all the other race/options from the game. Whatever, my game my rules. Lol. But since this is a multiplayer game discrimination impacts like chocobos smells. At the end of the day we'll have to have some discrimination in multiplayer but hopefully it suits the game and it's players well (or at least SE does have to make these choices- not so much us particularly, because resources are not infinite). I suppose that's one of the reasons why I try to actively avoid being SE's finical arbiter lol- a. I'm obviously not so it's a bit silly but also b. I don't want to actively kill someone else's enjoyment if I can help it / easily ignore it. (Also nuance / not threatening on asking for things and bla blah but that's for a different post lol).



    Certainly selfishly the game could be designed to every bias I have and no other, but then only those exactly like me would play... Not a very good business strategy unless you're going for niche from the onset like some games and media do (like how games are for certain types of players or media made for certain perspectives/desires). Maybe a bit obvious but easy picking example would be adult content, exclusive preferences are okay (bias).



    Just wanted to say having bias isn't necessarily bad, and even using it isn't always bad, but it of course it /could/ be bad / annoying to someone lol. Like if I love airships but someone else thinks they are a waste of resources, obviously people tend to have more on the line personally with outfits and all that expression stuff but I thought that airships be a neutral example.



    Anyway men and women in undies, the same undies even, is fine with me- but if someone gave me keys to the castle and said do you want either lingerie on men or player owned physical airships... I'd not think twice on picking the later. At the same time very rarely are things presented as / actually that simple (and I try not to play that either or game). Ideally I'd just say I don't really care for the first but if there is enough demand... Why not both?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    I agree with this (bias be bias), but wanted to add that I think under solo play circumstances there is nothing wrong with discriminating (man that's a Boogeyman word to use lol, feels funny saying it but stick with me XD). Like if I only install huge male argonian muscles and fine Spears mods in Skyrim. Adding to the works of Crassius Curio- not ever updating the other choices. Heck maybe even removing all the other race/options from the game. Whatever, my game my rules. Lol. But since this is a multiplayer game discrimination impacts like chocobos smells. At the end of the day we'll have to have some discrimination in multiplayer but hopefully it suits the game and it's players well (or at least SE does have to make these choices- not so much us particularly, because resources are not infinite). I suppose that's one of the reasons why I try to actively avoid being SE's finical arbiter lol- a. I'm obviously not so it's a bit silly but also b. I don't want to actively kill someone else's enjoyment if I can help it / easily ignore it. (Also nuance / not threatening on asking for things and bla blah but that's for a different post lol).



    Certainly selfishly the game could be designed to every bias I have and no other, but then only those exactly like me would play... Not a very good business strategy unless you're going for niche from the onset like some games and media do (like how games are for certain types of players or media made for certain perspectives/desires). Maybe a bit obvious but easy picking example would be adult content, exclusive preferences are okay (bias).



    Just wanted to say having bias isn't necessarily bad, and even using it isn't always bad, but it of course it /could/ be bad / annoying to someone lol. Like if I love airships but someone else thinks they are a waste of resources, obviously people tend to have more on the line personally with outfits and all that expression stuff but I thought that airships be a neutral example.



    Anyway men and women in undies, the same undies even, is fine with me- but if someone gave me keys to the castle and said do you want either lingerie on men or player owned physical airships... I'd not think twice on picking the later. At the same time very rarely are things presented as / actually that simple (and I try not to play that either or game). Ideally I'd just say I don't really care for the first but if there is enough demand... Why not both?
    This guy get's it.
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    Bright-Flower's Avatar
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnedeus View Post
    This is a public forum and i can say whatever i want as long as it's within the TOS. It's my opinion and if i don't wanna see something, then i don't want to see it. If that's how you roll, then you do you. And i respectfully suggest you respect others opinions instead of chastising them on it.
    I don't like seeing scantily clad roes either. But ultimately, it's up to each individual player to decide what to put their character in. If someone wants to play a scantily clad roe, that's their perogitive not mine and I can just not stare at them when I come across them. And in duties I have enough to focus on doing my rotation and mechanics etc as is that I don't have the time to care or even notice what people are wearing in the moment.
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    Vari Myste
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    Famfrit
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    Dyable would be great.

    Even if you don't plan on showing them off, there are still plenty of cutscenes and mount animations featuring upskirt shots that could benefit from some dye.
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    Sygglona Ahldfarrwyn
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    This is the plus side of chests with skirts on them, they let you use the pants slot for swimsuit bottom glam (or other not-pants like the female rathalos bottoms)
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    Boo Box
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    Archeage is fun as you have several styles of undies you can choose from. You have your default (which varies per race), and then you can choose different bra/undies or one pieces. I'm not sure how it looks on the guys though. Surprisingly most people in that game wear proper oufits.
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 12-03-2019 at 06:24 AM.

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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    This was a 1.0 feature that didn't make it to 2.0. Although it was nice and added a deeper level of roleplay.
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