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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Summoner Lv 90
    IIRC the Estinien fight had a few points where you were supposed to be reading the on-screen dialogue for hints - targeting the enemies up on the gantry, for example. The finale also had a limit break button appear on the hotbar that wasn't there at the beginning of the fight.
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    Tyrael Firenze
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    Diabolos
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    Scholar Lv 80
    It was heavily sign posted that you had to use the LB. It’s not savage level.
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    Len Mei
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    MSQ isn't hard... you just gotta...

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    Olivar Starblaze
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 80
    I can't agree to the Estinien quest being hard...
    The game literally tells you what to do in order to pass each situation, all you have to do is read the test and press the right button.


    Fighting some of the bosses like Ran’jit when the new classes changes got introduced?
    Yeah that was hard until you got used to the changes and might have taken a few attempts. I know I struggled with the final fight but eventually got passed it with ease once I adapted.
    But the "roleplayfight" hecking no
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    Olivar Starblaze
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    Freja Reginleif
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    Odin
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    Ninja Lv 90
    I find myself having a difficult time believing there are people out there this unintelligent. Apologies for the language, but my God, how is it possible to reach such low levels of intelligence? Surely this is a troll? Like ... Say SIKE right now
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    Lily D'kryl
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    Shiva
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    Dark Knight Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Starflake View Post
    I find myself having a difficult time believing there are people out there this unintelligent. Apologies for the language, but my God, how is it possible to reach such low levels of intelligence? Surely this is a troll? Like ... Say SIKE right now
    It's all those people, who have no idea, how stack marker works, turn mobs towards the group, so the whole group eats tankbuster cleave and dies, etc, etc. Game is hard, plz nerf.
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    Last edited by Flay_wind; 12-02-2019 at 09:24 PM.
    Sometimes rumors are just... rumors.

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    Pepsi Plunge
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    Lich
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
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    Pepsis Eorzea-Tagebuch:
    https://de.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/22850747/blog/


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    Rhus's Avatar
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    Y'dyalani Rhus
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    Louisoix
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    You have 4 skills!
    1 is a heal and the other is a LB button...so 3 skills that do damage.
    The characters even tell you to use the LB before he attacks and even if they didn't he charges it up for about an hour before attacking and you have a full LB gauge by then...instinct should say to use it like in every fight where that happens.
    Mind you I can't sound too surprised. I've had 2 or 3 instances of players this past few weeks who don't know how LBs (caster) work or what LB even was. Even had to walk someone through where to find the LB buton in the Actions menu to add it to their hotbar in Lvl roulette the other day. So this just seems par for the course.
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    Kheeziah Toastie
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    If you've played all the MSQ content to this particular point, you've seen this sort of thing before, unless you have jump-potioned the previous expansions and filler content and somehow didn't figure you played for a bit as Tankred (his new name, shush) in Shadowbringers. You have used LBs as other chars before, or finished you-as-the-player's side of the fight before they AI - LB. Each time these RP sections occur, you can stop up before fighting, read any blurb and skill tips newly presented, and because the game does it so much, you should then be somewhat able to keep one eyeball on the text box and on your hotbars, and the other eyeball on the mobs/tells and on-screen text and/or duty buttons. My suggestion in light of this is if you keep running into walls where you're finding this stuff problematic to complete, stop running. Slow up and do that walking thing. Deep breaths, patience and time*. It helps lots. Hope this doesn't come off as condescending, I'm being as genuine as I can as I know what it's like to have issues with something others seem to be fine with (and I, too, am mostly fine with now, I think), but this works for me when finding something difficult.

    However, if you're simply finding these role play scenarios old hat, then fair enough. Horses for courses and I'd possibly even agree to an extent. I don't think Estinien's fight was anywhere near as long for getting through as the Will of the Moon if the length of the duties is a bugbear (but I'll happily be corrected). I liked Will of the Moon, even if the first half took three or so attempts and it really needed a waymarker between the two halves. I liked Estinien's fight despite a couple of caveats (see below); it was - okay! I know how to DRG (the mileage of RealDRGPlayers may well vary on the truth of that), I can do this no problems! Which was how it went. Jump stabbity, stabbity, dodge jump dodge stabbity stabbity for a bit, repeat x2, LB, or some such. I don't really remember, it was the other month.

    My most pressing issue with that encounter - at least the bits I remember - having played a little DRG, was I needed more buttons to press. The lack of buttons disturbed me. The shoulders on his armour were also quite distressing. Please let me design this armour instead, thank you. This was my general takeaway from the whole thing.


    *try fishing in this game if you haven't already. You will suddenly look up from your computer and realise it's 6 months later.
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    Mansion Viscera
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Troll thread (I hope) but there is a bit of a point. Even without dying, these fights are quite pointlessly lengthy. Although the 5.1 one was the best by far (it had a small dungeon feeling), and I enjoyed the Qitana one (I felt like Lara Croft a bit), most scripted encounters (role play or solo) sometimes lack of a certain kick to make them thoroughly enjoyable.

    I'd say if we control a NPC, either give us more actions (without starting in medias res so we have a chance to take a look at the actions), or make the fight quick or engaging. The Thancred vs Ranjit was such a pain.
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