Monk Needs a Complete Rework

[Sqwall]

I agree wholeheartedly. Monk has always been eclipsed by NIN on every single patch note from ARR to now, and everything has always leaned into making it fun to play. Literally from 4.0 on wards has put NIN on a pedestal as the fastest DPS, and every single patch notes I have read monk is the LEAST altered. Warrior has more patch fixes and alterations then monk! Stormblood patch notes are the biggest offense to to Monk IMO.

Pretty sure I gave monk up prior to 4.1 when I noticed how trash it was. From 4.0 to 4.25 is the first REAL slap in the face for monk. We got wind tackle upgrade to add GL, perfect balance CD cut in half and some potency changes. And after that it get's better! 4.3~ made it so...get this...brotherhood effects everyone around the monk! WTH? and then another 4.0 patch they change brotherhood to effect the monk's themselves. And that's it...that's all we got from Stormblood....read the archived patch notes. It's like they didn't even try with monk in stormblood. Stormblood took the identity of monk and tossed it into a bottomless well. And to add insult to injury...MONK WAS THE WARRIOR OF LIGHTS CHOICE IN THE OPENING CINEMATIC!.....but ironically....SWITCHED TO SAMURAI!! It's like SE knew it was going to happen.

Man now i'm just upset after reading all the patch notes from 2.0 to now and monk is constantly spit in the face every subsequent patch released. While NIN and SAM hold hands skipping away because their jobs are fixed and make sense. It's like Monk got that left over box of crayons in school where they are all broken and you have like 8 oranges, no green, and the only blue's you have are Rose Art. While NIN and SAM's parents bought them each the 128 count crayola with the sharpener in the back, and they break it out to make the best coloring pictures in the class room. While the teacher is just giving them GOLD STARS ALL FREAKING DAY...while your pictures look like smeared poo and they just get's a "That's great!?...What is it of?" from the teacher while you try to hold back the tears of envy and resentment until get home, throw your book bag at your parents, scream I hate you, run upstairs, throw yourself on your bed, and cry until dinner time.

In case your not keeping track:
NIN and SAM - Get what they want because their respect parents love and understand them
MNK - Get's leftovers and is forced to deal due to no love from parents and wishes had NIN and SAM's parents
MNK's Parents - SE proper and wishes their child were more like NIN and SAM, can't understand what's wrong with their child.
DRG - is the quite kid in school that nobody picks on, and likes it that way, just loving life.

[Kabooa]

MNK is just royally screwed moreso than any other job for cutscene transitions..

If this is the impetus for the change, guess it's Gaia's turn next.

[Maltothoris]

NIN loses 15% haste, costing them 1 ninjutsu- a small price to pay for what is gained.

Even then once yo get the timing down, ninjas can still enter those fights with long cutscenes by using huton at the last possible second and they would still have 10-15 seconds, enough time for them to get an armor crush before it wears off. Though the rest of it still stands.

Mnk really just started to suffering when they were adding ways to maintain gl because it came at the cost of other skills as well. Not to mention they've gotten rid of skills for their rotation like howling fist and steel peak. And the fact that enlightenment is just howling fist from 46 to 74 with the one upside being that it could be spammed in rare cases.

[Eliadil]

Not to mention they've gotten rid of skills for their rotation like howling fist and steel peak. And the fact that enlightenment is just howling fist from 46 to 74 with the one upside being that it could be spammed in rare cases.

Can't wait to see tornado kick becoming the old howling fist with the rework. :x

Tbh I'm looking forward to see what they can do with this ability now that it has gotten rid off its GL restraint. I hope that it needs RoF to be used, and puts an end to RoF when used. This at least would make it fun and increase the use of a cool looking skill by a lot.

[Ultimatecalibur]

I hope that it needs RoF to be used, and puts an end to RoF when used. This at least would make it fun and increase the use of a cool looking skill by a lot.

Are you suggesting they turn it into Confiteor?

[xxvaynxx]

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Just wanna say I agree with you and Sora but since I've mained sam since SB.

Sam for sure didn't get any love from the devs until 5.14? I forget when they fixed sam shoha and sam finally become what its suppose to do.

Sam was mediocre to almost bad for almost all of SB so they for sure didn't get any love, and decent for the first half of ShB until we got our shoha fixed.

But this is about job gameplay rather than job performance so I don't wanna get off track.

[Mikey_R]

Are you suggesting they turn it into Confiteor?

Except it wouldn't be the same and would be far more frustrating to use. Remember, during Requiescat, you get 5 GCDs which are limited by your MP. Confiteor just replaces Holy Spirit in the last cast. The only reason Confiteor gets rid of Requiescat is so that you cannot spam Confiteor throughout the duration.

With Tornado Kick and Riddle of Fire, you do not have a specific number of GCDs you have to use, it is (theoretically) completely dependant on skill speed. This then causes the issue of, can I get another GCD in before I tornado Kick, if I can get one in, will the delay cause me to miss the Tornado Kick, or should I cut it short for Tornado Kick etc. It just turns into a guessing game as opposed to Confiteor where you always use it in the same place.

[Eliadil]

Are you suggesting they turn it into Confiteor?

I was more thinking of Bahamut Trance and Death Flare who ends the buff, but yeah.

[Sora_Oathkeeper]

Even then once yo get the timing down, ninjas can still enter those fights with long cutscenes by using huton at the last possible second and they would still have 10-15 seconds, enough time for them to get an armor crush before it wears off. Though the rest of it still stands.

Yeah, so far the only exceptions since ShB is Hades EX I think. I progged Alex Ultimate and Eden's Verse Savage on NIN and you could literally huton before the transitions and still have it up afterwards. It's insane how good NIN has transitions.

[VentVanitas]

Just a quick update, now that the LL digest is out, we now know that the Form Shift change is going to make it refresh GL no matter what form, rather than skipping Opo-Opo altogether (ala BLM's Umbral Soul) as the earlier translation would have us believe. Which is good enough for me, as it's what I and a lot of other people have been asking for them to do anyway. So... RIP SSS I guess, made just a tad bit more useless until 5.4 lol.