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  1. #1
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    Ultimatecalibur's Avatar
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Seto_Mimyho View Post
    You don't seem to be getting what I was getting at. Having 9 GCDs fighting over each other for usage will not solve or fix anything with MNK. Brotherhood's Buff of giving you chakras from other player's weaponskills would cause your proposed 3 skills to be detrimental due to the RNG of it and in standard rotation would throw off any sort of rhythm/harmony that the GCD skills we have at current provide. The core rotation of MNK has almost never been an issue and throwing new GCDs into the mix would only muddle things and in practice would be an utter nightmare to optimize/execute.
    I think you are far over estimating the difficulty of execution/optimization (save for on paper) and interference in rhythm/harmony.

    All the addition of these 3 skills would do is create a simple priority system based on current Form and number of open Chakra. Open Chakra is something that the gauge makes highly visible already even when you only currently need to be aware of 2 states (5 open and less than 5 open). These new skills would only add a single new state to track: less than 3 open.

    Opo-opo Form:
    • Is Leaden Fist not up? Dragonkick
    • 0, 1 or 2 Chakra open? New Skill 1
    • 3 or 4 Chakra open? Bootshine
    Raptor Form:
    • Is Twin Snakes not up? Twin Snakes
    • 0, 1 or 2 Chakra open? New Skill 2
    • 3 or 4 Chakra open? True Strike
    Coeurl form:
    • Is Demolish not up? Demolish
    • 0, 1 or 2 Chakra open? Snap Punch
    • 3, 4 or 5 Chakra open? New Skill 3

    Brotherhood is only active 15s every 90s. The remaining 75s Monk is constantly at the whims of RNG to determine when the next Forbidden Chakra comes up (and even with Brotherhood they are still at the whims of RNG). It could be within 5 gcds or the Monk could be waiting for in indeterminate amount of time if RNG really doesn't likely them, but on average a monk is waiting about 17 or 18 gcds per FC.

    Bootshine (Leaden Fist) not being the only thing keeping this class alive DPSwise.
    Solvable by pushing the average potency of the Raptor Form and Coeurl Form rotations up to around 250 potency.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sora_Oathkeeper View Post
    which seems like it would suit a better name to Anatman.
    Anatman is the concept of no true self and therefore no true duration which explains Anatman freezing GL.
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    SpeckledBurd's Avatar
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    K'ahli K'uhla'tor
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    What you're proposing is to "fix" Monk's core GCD loop, one of the few parts of the job that doesn't need fixing, for basically no satisfying end. You're adding new weaponskills to the rotation, but in a way that's going to be broadly un-intuitive to most players with the only goal being mitigating the RNG of Deep Meditation/Chakra. Deep Meditation and RNG Chakra are both aspects of the job most players think need to be completely removed rather than something we need a bunch more niche skills to mitigate.

    It frankly doesn't sound fun to play or even satisfying. It just seems like more Niche weaponskills on a job that has way too many of those specifically to avoid fixing a bigger problem.
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    Last edited by SpeckledBurd; 05-25-2020 at 12:08 AM.

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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    ...
    Is Chakra, short of having a ton more, and more interesting, mechanics added to it, even worth redesigning our weaponskills around, though? While, in principle, I'd like to see more weaponskills, this 1-2, 3-4, or 5 Chakra 'check and pop' arrangement somehow looks less interesting, even, than what we have now.
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