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    Player
    Yneko's Avatar
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    Aug 2015
    Posts
    9
    Character
    Y'neko Rohzu
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 80
    This is going to be long, so:

    TL/DR: Brainstorms and arguments are good for us as comunity. but the problem is much deeper than that.

    Now to the point:

    I do not konw how to react to Val's posts as he:

    1) on one hand wants everyone to get a good IP and VPN (which is not possible on PS4) and

    2) wants different playstyles to be possible (they are talking about TK openers but those are a huge damage loss right now not only comparing to other monks but other melee too).

    But their post have some point: They are promoting the CHOICE, while the reality is, there is no choice. Back in 4.2+ you could ignore TK rotation and still be viable (or only do TK at last second or RoF and nobody would notice), now, pretty much, you have one viable rotation and, depending on your ping+skill+party comp+add ons, 3 openers, with anatman being the best "all round" one (even the best choice for PS4 players). If we do not count "delaying buffs" to line them up, we are the only job whose performance relies on decisions made 10s pre-pull.

    For me, the question RIGHT NOW is not what we want, but what DEVELOPERS WANT. It is clear, that we are abusing the job's design to either:

    1) get the best performance or
    2) get the best experience

    and since those two are so different I think we should just ast the devs one question:

    WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO DO?

    and from the answer we can get giong.

    We thought they want us to TK.
    They made it more difficult.

    We thoght they want us to hit positionals correctly.
    They gave RoE a new trait.

    And the list goes on...

    I agreee with Val in many things, in many I do not.
    I agree with many players posting in these forums, in many I do not.
    The only thing I am 100% sure is - I do not know what devs want us to do and if we are doing it.
    I even do not know if the PB burst isn't another Ninja "players found out a better rotation, so we changed potencies" which happened TWICE during HW.

    EXAMPLE: double-true rotation I think they do not want to. It makes no sense to drop a buff and it looks like oversight from miles away.

    Just tell us so we can give you a relevant response.
    Shoha on SAM. SAMs were unhappy and they got one change in 5.1 (a big one) and another in 5.2 (getting freaking gauge!!!)
    Why we can get this, please?

    Just tell us what you want so we can tell you why it is not fun...
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    Last edited by Yneko; 02-16-2020 at 11:38 AM.

  2. #2
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    Imshail's Avatar
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    Nov 2018
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    Character
    Imshail G'ven
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    If the previous patches didn't already clue you in I'd say there's not much of a chance of the devs actually listening, the job is a mess and will probably remain a mess in the future because the devs simply don't care enough to fix even minor issues let alone blatant ones.
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