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    K'ahli K'uhla'tor
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Malmstrom View Post
    On the Fists buff, I thought I read somewhere that because of the way damage is calculated that Fire still ends up being stronger than Wind.


    How about just do away with it altogether and come up with something else? Make a 4th GL stack a trait at whatever level it is now for FoW, because honestly Fists of X needs to go the way of Ninja poisons.
    Correct, because damage buffs are multiplicative Fists of Wind/GL4 is a flat 1.4x modifier on your potencies, while Fists of Fire is a 1.43x modifier. GL4 ends up being stronger over the course of the fight in spite of Fists of Fire's higher multiplier because of how it buffs auto-attacks to be absurdly strong on Monk compared to other jobs.

    The Fist Stances going away is something people thought would happen going into Stormblood and instead we got 4.0 Tackle Mastery, which was more an appeal at the Fist Stances doing something than actually making them useful. I can only assume the reason there's two traits is because the devs were still terrified of GL4 being too fast for players, so they left in Fists of Fire to give people a choice between playstyles. But it’s just an illusion of choice in the exact same way Tackle Mastery was. People will always choose the option that does the most damage in this game, so the only time you'll ever use Fists of Fire is winding up to GL4 or for the last GCD of a fight. It's another piece of evidence that the devs don't know how people will play this game and that they had no vision as to what they wanted Shadowbringers Monk to be, so we of the same even though much of that was stuff we disliked as they patted themselves on the back about how well they'd done.

    But I digress, At this point since the devs have proven that they aren't going to do anything worthwhile with the Fist Stances, I would happily see them go and have those traits remade into something else.
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    Last edited by SpeckledBurd; 01-20-2020 at 06:39 AM.