Monk Needs a Complete Rework

[Rochedalaix]

I recently came back to the game I haven't played since Iceheart first appearance and Ninja was released. My question is did we get that revamp? I noticed a lot of my skills are missing but according to this thread that happened expansions ago.

[SpeckledBurd]

I recently came back to the game I haven't played since Iceheart first appearance and Ninja was released. My question is did we get that revamp? I noticed a lot of my skills are missing but according to this thread that happened expansions ago.

They've removed a ton of skills yes, however the lost skills are basically just creating an illusion of change. If you played Monk in ARR/Heavensward it plays very similarly to how it did then but with less skills and more RNG to build a resource that gets used identically to Steel Peak. There's still positionals on every weaponskill and Monk still has an excess of useless/overly situational skills some of which are completely unchanged from how they were in ARR.

Monk however didn't get a revamp in Heavensward/Stormblood/Shadowbringers proper. Though the developers have promised such before but they've never actually materialized it, what's basically happened is over the last two expansions they've removed skills at lower levels and replaced them with something similar but weirder functionality at higher levels.

[Mikey_R]

The revamp is coming in 5.4, which is scheduled for early December.

[Kahnom]

Gonna wait and see new monk in 5.4 before turn in the memories of dying.
People’s expectations are high and I don’t want to change my main.
I really hope we get an interesting openner for once.

[Jirah]

Gonna wait and see new monk in 5.4 before turn in the memories of dying.
People’s expectations are high and I don’t want to change my main.
I really hope we get an interesting openner for once.

Agreed, so far every time SE changes a job its usually for the worst or a complete lobotomy which my bets are on the latter. If Monks get that treatment i just wanna say i totally called it

[Jirah]

Agreed, so far every time SE changes a job its usually for the worst or a complete lobotomy which my bets are on the latter. If Monks get that treatment i just wanna say i totally called it

Still Valid

[SpeckledBurd]

Still Valid

I mean Monk didn't get lobotomized, it just didn't get anything at all really.

[Jirah]

I mean Monk didn't get lobotomized, it just didn't get anything at all really.

Well we dont know alot of stuff but what we do know is that:

Perfect Balance will act similar to Ninjas Bunshin which implies a more lenient approach for dishing out time sensitive gcds, Tornado Kick will be another boring ogcd with no affiliation to anything like Fleche or most of MCH kit which i dont like tbh just delete the skill if you have it has bugger all to do with anything. Form shift is a minimized Perfect balance not the new version the old style perfect balance. and GL will be traits still nothing on the fists or Anatman or Chakra if they even do anything with that so the job can go anywhere from here tbh.

but ima predict MNk will be easy to play but not fun which is key. and idk how these potency buffs after GL absence will translate perfectly or not

[Gameovers]

Am I the only one happy about GL being a thing I don't have to worry about anymore? I feel like I'm the only one who's more on the happy side monk's getting a major overhaul. To put it another way I have faith in the team that they won't fuck it up. I mean, Mch, and ninja play awesome now so 2 out of 3 isn't bad.

[Powercow]

Am I the only one happy about GL being a thing I don't have to worry about anymore?

Was Greased Lightning really such a chore to keep up? You have like, 4 different ways of maintaining it. Honestly you could mash random keys next to a boss and probably keep it up more often than not.

I feel like I'm the only one who's more on the happy side monk's getting a major overhaul. To put it another way I have faith in the team that they won't fuck it up. I mean, Mch, and ninja play awesome now so 2 out of 3 isn't bad.

This is the third time monk has gotten a rework since the start of Stormblood, and the previous 2 times just made the job worse. Could they have learned what made Monk fun and make it a super-fun and engaging job? Sure. But if they could do that, they would have done it one of the previous times. Frankly, the GL change was done so that Monks wouldn't feel stressed out about keeping it up, and the fact this was their big reveal for the rework shows they are wildly off on their assumptions about why people don't like Monk's gameplay.