No Garleans on the first?

[Miyoyo]

I'm a little late to the party no doubt, but I recently got to replay the Ivalice raids and got to thinking why aren't there any Garleans in the first?

As far as I'm aware both the Garleans and the Proto Garlean race had the third eye and should have existed since the Sundering, so I find it very suspicious that there's not a single one left alive in Norvrandt yet alone any mention of such a race.

Is this just something I've missed completely? A big coincidence? Or maybe a future plot revelation given how much of Garlemalds history we know is a fabrication?

[Riastrad]

I can only imagine that if the Garlean race does not have an equivalent on other shards, then that may infer that they are either extinct or were created by the Ascians to have a slave race to further their agenda of creating discord.

[Saefinn]

Given the geographical location of Garlemauld, it is plausible if there was a Garlean equivalent race then they got wiped out in the flood of light.

[MikkoAkure]

If there were, we may never know because 90% of the First was destroyed completely, including the region they are supposed to be from. We don’t see Lupin, Namazu, Sylphs, Kojin, Vanu, Vath, or Qiqirn either. Doesn’t mean they only existed on the Source.

The only races that we know should only be on the Source are the Ixal, Ananta, and dragons.

[Kisshu]

The only races that we know should only be on the Source are the Ixal, Ananta, and dragons.

Don't forget tonberries. Were created during the War of the Magi.

[Vidu]

Don't forget tonberries. Were created during the War of the Magi.

...do we count tonberries as a race though? Seeing how they're essintially lalafell transformed into tonberries by the curse/disease - specially considering that we have people working on finding a remedy for it to reverse the process. Most tonberries are also asleep, so at least I'm having a hard time to consider them a real race, which to me would imply that they're more or less content with being tonberries and are building a society etc. - but thats not what they're doing, they're working on curing the tonberry-disease to become lalafells again.
And on that note: the same curse or disease could exist on other Shards. The tonberries arent in the same category as the chimeras the Allags created - thinking about it, they seem closer to Sin-Eaters in the sense that the body of a healthy lalafell-being is transformed into something else.

[JeanneOrnitier]

It could be that either they were killed by the Flood, or that they came into existence on the Source post-sundering and so wouldn't be on any of the Shards. As of now there's no way to know which case it is.

[JWag12787]

A point of note (Spoiler from Shadowbringers):

The Garlean Empire was of Ascian construction, essentially AFTER the shattering into the various shards, so they may have only placed them on the Source, as that's the one shard that will have constant conflict during the re-joining of the rest.


Just my 2c.

[MikkoAkure]

A point of note (Spoiler from Shadowbringers)

Spoiler /10char

The pure-blooded Garlean people existed before the Empire and go all the way back to at least Goug, which was where they lived before moving to Ilsabard. Just because the Empire was created by the Ascians doesn’t necessarily mean the people were too.

[JWag12787]

Spoiler /10char

The pure-blooded Garlean people existed before the Empire and go all the way back to at least Goug, which was where they lived before moving to Ilsabard. Just because the Empire was created by the Ascians doesn’t necessarily mean the people were too.

Isn't Goug still after the original sundering? It's still my understanding that all these events still occurred as part of the events on the Source, and not necessarily in every other shard.

/seriouslytencharacters?