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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Dude, ogcds are a huge part of the problem that healers currently have. Like the OP pointed out, nearly all of the new abilities we've gained since pretty much ARR are all ogcd, and even if they are on the gcd like with Misery, it is still an instant cast. Healer is still supposed to be a casting role, and we don't do a whole lot of casting outside of spamming our one ST and AoE option.

    Devs are so intent on mechanics that make healers dance around AoEs instead of actually heal, which is why the mobility is needed. It is a result of encounter design that focuses so much on throwing off a player's DPS.

    I think back to when the devs would state that healer DPS isn't accounted for when designing raids and DPS checks. I'm starting to wonder if they are accounted for at all.
    This is why the most exciting stuff I find at level 80 right now is all the hardcasting Ress I find myself doing in 24-man or Titan normal. No other pressing Indom after raid-wide has come close to the clenching feeling of daring to stand still for 8 seconds and slidecast the last second before Engels smarxes the place I was standing on. Sure I can do that in Savage and Extreme aswell, but it feels unrewarding if the boss is just gonna wipe us because someone was unfocused a moment or got serverticked and we have no chance to recoupe the seconds they were down. At least Engels don't just go "roof falls everyone dies" if you don't meet some arbitrary dps check after doing all his mechanics.


    Quote Originally Posted by manamoppet View Post
    I kind of wish What Angel Wakes Me (the lyrics to the Titania fight) was used as inspiration and turned into a gauge spell where Lily* and Seraph hold/clasp hands and dance in ring while throwing glowing petals everywhere (circle dance or waltz?) to produce a spell effect. Maybe something like Fey Union + Seraphic Veil**? Or something else?

    *(Name of our fairy. Would be Eos or Selene depending on which you have summoned)
    ** (on Aetherpact/Fey union target)
    You are definitly not alone in that regard, telling Alka Zolka and Surito about this place, might it be the Nym counterpart and see if new memories would awaken in Lily, dwelving further into it's mysteries and break new ground in Scholar magicks and fairy bonding. Even have Feo Ul tag along like has been suggested here as a summon, take them to the Source and see if they can help the tonberries, learn new skills in Nym with the circle dance or waltz for things to really shake up the gameplay or simply vanity, having Lily wander of if you idle in Lydha Lran.

    That SE would do something special with the only job with a fairy in a zone, dungeon and trial filled to the brim with fairies aswell as story-centric handler-NPC at first felt like a given, but I'm having trouble believing SE knows the job exists at this point and they've done little to dissuade from that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloprano View Post
    This is why the most exciting stuff I find at level 80 right now is all the hardcasting Ress I find myself doing in 24-man or Titan normal. No other pressing Indom after raid-wide has come close to the clenching feeling of daring to stand still for 8 seconds and slidecast the last second before Engels smarxes the place I was standing on. Sure I can do that in Savage and Extreme aswell, but it feels unrewarding if the boss is just gonna wipe us because someone was unfocused a moment or got serverticked and we have no chance to recoupe the seconds they were down. At least Engels don't just go "roof falls everyone dies" if you don't meet some arbitrary dps check after doing all his mechanics.
    Indeeeeeeed!! I love me a hard casted rezz! 24 man is my absolute favorite content to do because of all the randomness, and all the GCD heals I get to use. Sometimes I think 24-man IS the content that is our playground. I still won't use it to excuse the blatant issues we have in other content, but 24-man is so refreshing. I finally did Copied Factory last night, and I was just like "YAAAASSSSSS!!!!!"

    If they can somehow incorporate that kind of necessary healing into all content, I would be one happy camper and I know a lot of other healers would be too. They are just less inclined to do it the less healers there are. Even in Rathalos EX, they still got scared and said, "Well, we will take healing out of the second phase entirely, and leave it to each player to heal themselves" T_T
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    Why not have the afflatus skills be oGCDs then? You could weave them in with other spells. Glare weave into Solace or Misery weave into Medica. The pause between two instant spells always felt jarring to me. Your character just stands there for two seconds breaking the flow of casting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    Why not have the afflatus skills be oGCDs then? You could weave them in with other spells. Glare weave into Solace or Misery weave into Medica. The pause between two instant spells always felt jarring to me. Your character just stands there for two seconds breaking the flow of casting.
    Because that would overpower WHM (who is already decently strong insofar as free hps) without helping any of its issues (such as lack of weaving space).
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 12-18-2019 at 04:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    Why not have the afflatus skills be oGCDs then? You could weave them in with other spells. Glare weave into Solace or Misery weave into Medica. The pause between two instant spells always felt jarring to me. Your character just stands there for two seconds breaking the flow of casting.
    Because one of whms flaws was the lack of weaving space for ogcds. If they did stuff like make Glare have a 1.5 sec cast maybe but methinks that's supposed to he ASTs gimmick.
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    I mean they basically removed Largesse to add it as an ability for AST and WHM. Removing something and changing it up a bit is NOT new. I feel like SE doesnt know what to do with Healers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marikya View Post
    I mean they basically removed Largesse to add it as an ability for AST and WHM. Removing something and changing it up a bit is NOT new. I feel like SE doesnt know what to do with Healers.
    Worse, Largesse was already stolen from a WHM-unique skill, Divine Seal, which was more powerful than Temperance.
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    I've been thinking about what Astrologian used to have lately and had a thought for a new spell after seeing a now removed thread detailing someone's surprisingly good ideas for healer reworks.

    How does this sound for a capstone spell based on the current seals system (I MUCH prefer 3.0 and 4.0 Ast but rip)

    Almagest: Cast time 2.5 seconds. 25Y range, 6Y radius. Does 650 potency to the first enemy and 400 potency for all remaining enemies.
    Effect: Damage over time potency 55. Standard duration 12 seconds.
    Effect: Increases remaining duration of allies beneficial effects (buffs) by 12 seconds
    Seals bonus:
    Every Solar seal extends the duration of the damge over time by 6 seconds
    Every Lunar seal extends the duration of ally buffs by 6 seconds.
    Every Celestial seal grants a shield equal to a 250 potency heal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    While I wish it were that simple, there's a fatal flaw here. One that has affected healer discussions for years now.
    You don't simply need more support abilities. You need opportunities to use them.
    I was thinking about something for support abilities for healers.
    - Would it be possible to have abilities allowing to recharge the charges for one party member ? or maybe all ?
    - Could we have the possibility to give a mission action (you know, the thing completely unused) to a party member.
    It would be like giving him a new ability temporarly for the fight.

    These are interesting paths to explore, Imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    All I want is one expansion where they reanalyze the jobs and make massive adjustments to unhomogenize them. This is Final Fantasy 14 not Club penguin I dont wish for jobs that only have 5 buttons going for them or play exactly the same as 2/3 other jobs.
    Quote Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura View Post
    This current card system needs to be unwritten, destroyed and never returned.

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