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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    Let's see if I can't predict WHM 6.0 skills
    Afflatus Medica 2
    Afflatus Xenoglossy
    Glare 2/Dia 2
    Enhanced Presence of Mind Trait - Adds a 5% Damage Buff to Presence of Mind.
    Enhanced Lily Trait - Generate Lilies every 20 seconds.
    It's too real. Take it back a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    It's too real. Take it back a bit.
    I'm time stamping my post so that when 6.0 comes out, I can look back on this moment and weep. Hell, if I really gave it enough thought, I could probably take a whack on what SCH and AST 81+ skills will be too.

    SCH:
    Broil 4/Biolysis 2
    Fey Tactics - Fairy Lustrate for 10 Fey Gauge
    Aetheric Division - Summons both Eos and Selene to throw out an AoE heal every 3 seconds, draining fey gauge for as long as the skill is active.
    Enhanced Emergency Tactics Trait - E-tactics now reduces the cost of Addlo/Succor as well as adds a 2nd charge to the skill.
    Enhanced Deployment Tactics Trait - Reduces the CD to 90 seconds

    AST:
    Malefic 5 (Probably changed to something like Malpoios)/ Combust 4
    Stellium - Adds a Heal + Regen/Shield effect to all cards played during its duration, depending on sect active. Minor Arcana gain both Regen/Shield effects
    Quadruplicity - Shares a CD with Divination. When you have 3 of the same Seal, increase the D.Hit/Crit/SkS+SpS of yourself and allies, depending on the Seal (Solar = D.Hit, Celestial = Crit, Lunar = SkS+SpS).
    Enhanced Celestial Opposition - Restores MP and stuns enemies within the radius
    Enhanced Celestial Intersection - Adds a 2nd charge to the skill.

    Just to stave off any potential backlash in regards to these "predictions" I want to just state that while I'm not suggesting these be what SE adds for Healers come 6.0 but rather how my interpretation of SE's actions have lead me to believe that this is how their mentality works. They reintroduce the same skill they had previously removed under a new coat of paint and calling it a day, hence why something like the Enhanced Celestial Opposition trait could very well be a legitimate passive come 6.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    I'm time stamping my post so that when 6.0 comes out, I can look back on this moment and weep. Hell, if I really gave it enough thought, I could probably take a whack on what SCH and AST 81+ skills will be too.

    SCH:
    Broil 4/Biolysis 2
    Fey Tactics - Fairy Lustrate for 10 Fey Gauge
    Aetheric Division - Summons both Eos and Selene to throw out an AoE heal every 3 seconds, draining fey gauge for as long as the skill is active.
    Enhanced Emergency Tactics Trait - E-tactics now reduces the cost of Addlo/Succor as well as adds a 2nd charge to the skill.
    Enhanced Deployment Tactics Trait - Reduces the CD to 90 seconds

    AST:
    Malefic 5 (Probably changed to something like Malpoios)/ Combust 4
    Stellium - Adds a Heal + Regen/Shield effect to all cards played during its duration, depending on sect active. Minor Arcana gain both Regen/Shield effects
    Quadruplicity - Shares a CD with Divination. When you have 3 of the same Seal, increase the D.Hit/Crit/SkS+SpS of yourself and allies, depending on the Seal (Solar = D.Hit, Celestial = Crit, Lunar = SkS+SpS).
    Enhanced Celestial Opposition - Restores MP and stuns enemies within the radius
    Enhanced Celestial Intersection - Adds a 2nd charge to the skill.

    Just to stave off any potential backlash in regards to these "predictions" I want to just state that while I'm not suggesting these be what SE adds for Healers come 6.0 but rather how my interpretation of SE's actions have lead me to believe that this is how their mentality works. They reintroduce the same skill they had previously removed under a new coat of paint and calling it a day, hence why something like the Enhanced Celestial Opposition trait could very well be a legitimate passive come 6.0.
    "Cool cool, but you forgot to remove 8 popular skills from each class, to nerf Fluid Aura, and to turn a WHM skill into a role skill. Temperance should do the trick, yeah.

    I like how you didn't even mention WHM, it's the most played healer so obviously it's perfect and should never be changed again." - SE's class design team, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lodi View Post
    "Cool cool, but you forgot to remove 8 popular skills from each class, to nerf Fluid Aura, and to turn a WHM skill into a role skill. Temperance should do the trick, yeah.

    I like how you didn't even mention WHM, it's the most played healer so obviously it's perfect and should never be changed again." - SE's class design team, I guess.
    I'd already guessed what skills they'd add to WHM earlier in the topic.

    As for skills removed, I don't really see them removing anything from WHM except maybe Fluid Aura at this point. I can see them combining Afflatus skills with their corresponding base spell (Cure 2 turns to Solace, Medica turns into Rapture, etc.) once you have a Lily up, although I see that as a negative thing rather a positive one since you wouldn't be able to piggyback Solace/Rapture immediately after a Cure2/Medica if the situation required it.

    I can see Ruin 2 getting axed from SCH.
    AST, I can see Synastry being cut but even that's a stretch for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    I'd already guessed what skills they'd add to WHM earlier in the topic.

    As for skills removed, I don't really see them removing anything from WHM except maybe Fluid Aura at this point. I can see them combining Afflatus skills with their corresponding base spell (Cure 2 turns to Solace, Medica turns into Rapture, etc.) once you have a Lily up, although I see that as a negative thing rather a positive one since you wouldn't be able to piggyback Solace/Rapture immediately after a Cure2/Medica if the situation required it.

    I can see Ruin 2 getting axed from SCH.
    AST, I can see Synastry being cut but even that's a stretch for me.
    I knew you didn't mention WHM here on purpose, I was just joking about SE's general "I don't care" attitude towards WHM. I mean, all we got in 5.1 was extra range on Asylum, which absolutely nobody asked for.

    I dunno about Ruin II, SCH has so many ogcds that removing its weaving spell would be a terrible idea. But hey, "terrible idea" also defines the 5.0 healer changes.

    I can definitely see Synastry die, it's so niche and has been nerfed once already.

    Though we'll probably keep Fluid Aura, it's been useless for two expansions already. Or maybe it'll become a role action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lodi View Post
    Hey, at least it's more interesting than Celestial Opposition, which is litterally just a free Aspected Helios every 60s.

    I prefer stuff like Plenary or Horoscope, because they work with our spells instead of making them useless, or Divine Benison / Celestial Intersection because they add something our spell kit doesn't have.

    OGCDs should synergize with our spells, rather than replacing them.
    Horoscope should synergize with Divination. Either extending the buff, upgrading it or granting a heal over time for the duration of divination.
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    I don't like that some of the healer spells we get are just "that spell" but it's better or works differently now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marikya View Post
    I don't like that some of the healer spells we get are just "that spell" but it's better or works differently now.
    Just you wait until Stone VI Glare II, it's going to be so much F U N
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lodi View Post
    "Cool cool, but you forgot to remove 8 popular skills from each class, to nerf Fluid Aura, and to turn a WHM skill into a role skill. Temperance should do the trick, yeah.

    I like how you didn't even mention WHM, it's the most played healer so obviously it's perfect and should never be changed again." - SE's class design team, I guess.
    They probably didnt because someone else did their "whm speculation" in an earlier post and they where just adding to it.
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    I kind of wish What Angel Wakes Me (the lyrics to the Titania fight) was used as inspiration and turned into a gauge spell where Lily* and Seraph hold/clasp hands and dance in ring while throwing glowing petals everywhere (circle dance or waltz?) to produce a spell effect. Maybe something like Fey Union + Seraphic Veil**? Or something else?

    *(Name of our fairy. Would be Eos or Selene depending on which you have summoned)
    ** (on Aetherpact/Fey union target)
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