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    AndreD69's Avatar
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    Ves Kolloth
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    Jenova
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    Reaper Lv 90

    WTH going on with melds?

    I just went through 160 LV VII materia to slot the 4th on 1 TOOL and none took. Did SE screw up the script from 7% chance to 0% chance? They may as well have. That's days & hrs wasted from grinding mats that i may as well have flushed down the toilet.

    Sorry wrong place and i cannot delete it
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    Last edited by AndreD69; 11-18-2019 at 11:17 AM.

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    VirusOnline's Avatar
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    Yoshi Papa
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    Monk Lv 90
    I hope I can explain this mathematically for you, if it helps.

    The equation of approximate probability of have at least one successful melding attempt with a 7% chance is equal to 1 - (1-p)^x, where 1-p is your odds of failure and x is your number of attempts.
    Let's ask ourselves how many times must we attempt a meld in order to guarantee that one successful overmeld ? Our equation becomes 1 - (1 - .07)^x = .99. Now we need to find x, or the number of times needed to meld to guarantee a 99% chance of an overmeld within x number of tries. Reorder our equation to get .01 = .93^x reorder again to x = ln(.01)/ln(.93).

    x = 63.56.

    This means that you have a 99.00% chance of a successful overmeld within ~64 tries.

    Now you said you tried 160 times. You had a chance of at least 1 chance of a successful overmeld of 99.99%, but not quite 100% chance. And as we know, if it's not 100%, then nothing is guaranteed in the world of crafting.
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    You have a 7% chance to meld. 7% no matter how many tries is still 7%.

    Its rng at its finest.
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    Player Omymy's Avatar
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    Omy Song
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    You had never meld a crafter set dontcha.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Meld frustration does exist and it sucks.

    Personally I'd advocate for a trait or if the system would add 1% chance for each failed meld
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
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    Welcome to FF14 RNG where anything under 100% might as well be 50% and any lower than that is subject to this game's super-advanced mind-reading Desire Sensor AI that has learned to simulate sadism and then perfected it beyond even human capacity.

    Nobody believes me but I KNOW.
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    Blank Belmont
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    Shiva
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    Lancer Lv 80
    So you are my counterpart for inserting 2 5%er on the first try. Thank you for your sacrifice.
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    Mi An
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    After I got to the dark crafting side of XIV, the first thing I learned is when you have 87% success rate, you are in the 13% side.
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Lamia
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    You were trying something with a 93% chance of failure, and you failed a bunch of times. Like, im sorry it was an extra long string of failure, but thats just life sometimes. And RNG. Life and RNG.
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    Dodogamo Bobogamo
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    Shiva
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    welcome to the rng world of ff14

    Few days ago i needed 12 tries to overmeld an item with 58% Chance.
    I know it was a cheap materia, but to fail 11 times with a 58% chance... *facepalm

    And thats why i never overmeld to max stats. it's just not worth
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