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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    It all only requires ONE person lowering the ilvl to for 23 players to do Lvl 50 content. How does is that not a problem?
    Yes, but outside of you being bored of the content, you'll still get an appropriate reward for completing that low level roulette. Meanwhile, I've been in too many runs in the past where, after I've queued for a long time, only for a tank to quit right at the beginning and the party not being able to do the mechanics because of it, forcing a vote to abandon or mass people leaving.

    Hence, if we want to force item level restriction, which I've agreed to, there has to be something else that goes along with it, either incentives for staying or punishments for leaving, or both. The only reason why I'm not as excited for more incentives is because I think alliance roulette is already worth it regardless of which duty I get, but that's just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    Yes, but outside of you being bored of the content, you'll still get an appropriate reward for completing that low level roulette. Meanwhile, I've been in too many runs in the past where, after I've queued for a long time, only for a tank to quit right at the beginning and the party not being able to do the mechanics because of it, forcing a vote to abandon or mass people leaving.

    Hence, if we want to force item level restriction, which I've agreed to, there has to be something else that goes along with it, either incentives for staying or punishments for leaving, or both. The only reason why I'm not as excited for more incentives is because I think alliance roulette is already worth it regardless of which duty I get, but that's just me.
    They might want to increase the penalty (only for leaving 24-mans mind you) to 1 hour then. That's 1 hour you can't do anything, and most 24-mans can be done in 45 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    They might want to increase the penalty (only for leaving 24-mans mind you) to 1 hour then. That's 1 hour you can't do anything, and most 24-mans can be done in 45 minutes.
    Unfortunately, if you only penalize people for leaving, you'll get people who will act out to get kicked intentionally or fake a disconnect.

    The sad truth is that people's abuse of a system will always necessitate inconveniences for legitimate use of the system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    Yes, but outside of you being bored of the content, you'll still get an appropriate reward for completing that low level roulette. Meanwhile, I've been in too many runs in the past where, after I've queued for a long time, only for a tank to quit right at the beginning and the party not being able to do the mechanics because of it, forcing a vote to abandon or mass people leaving.

    Hence, if we want to force item level restriction, which I've agreed to, there has to be something else that goes along with it, either incentives for staying or punishments for leaving, or both. The only reason why I'm not as excited for more incentives is because I think alliance roulette is already worth it regardless of which duty I get, but that's just me.
    I think both would be beneficial. Increase the rewards for the higher level duties; possibly lowering Crystal Tower to better balance things out. But also making it so the leave penalty lingers until two (maybe three) people leave per alliance. One of the biggest problems with that penalty is once a single person bails, it's free sailing for anyone else. If you're already not happy with the result. Why wouldn't you leave?
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