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  1. #61
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    Metalwrath's Avatar
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Lower tiered and higher tiered alliance raid would be a good idea.But to make it effective you'd need to lower the rewards for the lower tier and give higher bonus for higher tier to encourage people to engage in the higher tier one or both.
    I think though the real problem is sync down maximum ilvls need to be balanced.If people werent so overgeared in lvl 50 alliance raids they'd probably think twice about gear switching as the lvl 50 ones you'd be forced to have to do mechanics.
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  2. #62
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    You say that, but there are many times when a healer drops and you NEVER get a replacement. Or multiple people drop and you never get replacements. This happens frequently (has happened).
    No, there are not many times like that and it does not happen frequently at all. I can count on one hand the amount of times I couldn't finish a normal difficulty instance due to not getting a replacement, and I've been playing since 2015. Most of those have been dungeons where you rely on just one tank and healer. This is hardly a problem in alliance raids where you have more than enough players of every role to complete the raid.

    And you know, maybe getting replacements would be easier if players couldn't avoid two thirds of alliance raids by lowering their item level.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    And you know, maybe getting replacements would be easier if players couldn't avoid two thirds of alliance raids by lowering their item level.
    No lots would not do alliance roulette if the rewards were kept the same. Makes no sense to many people to get the same rewards for LOTA and Orbornne. It's really that simple. Fix how rewards are given and people will want the higher raids. They do that with Praatorium.

    Retaive to people leaving it's really frustrating to be queued for 40 minutes as a DPS and upon spawn in and some find it's Castrum to have the tank and healer leave. Now lets have both sets leave and now those dps have to wait another 40 minutes to hopefully queue in and not have it happen again. I personally think the differences between the two are too great although I do understand the time differences. It would reduce the frequency of having people quit.

    Force people into the higher raids without additional rewards and you'll find queue times get a lot worse in my humble opinion.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 11-25-2019 at 06:13 AM.

  4. #64
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    LauraAdalena's Avatar
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    Carby Adalena
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    Is that so? I've asked others about this in the past, and the answer I've gotten has always been that it's limited to your own alliance. Someone from another alliance leaving first would still penalize the first person in your alliance who leaves afterward, but I've never tested it myself.
    If that’s true, that’s still ridiculous. 3 people get to leave for penalty and 21 leave for free? Especially in the 24-man raids where the people actually queueing for content like it are a lot fewer and far between given that most of the casual group skip over ones that aren’t CT raids because of either difficulty or just not seeing the need to pick them up.

    It’s the exact purpose the roulette was trying to fix in the first place and why ilvl cheezing makes it a useless roulette on a development angle.
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    Last edited by LauraAdalena; 11-24-2019 at 11:48 PM.


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  5. #65
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    Alucard135's Avatar
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    Diaval Alucard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    People don't drop trial roulette just because they get Tsukuyomi instead of a quick one like Cape Westwind or Chimera. The small minority who would leave an alliance roulette are insignificant. It doesn't matter if they like to spend their play time being penalised because the group who wants to be in the raid will not even notice their absence while they clear trash and refill the group.
    Trial roulette don't take as long as alliance to finish, so people won't drop from that. But they would drop from an EX trial in mentor roulette as soon as they get it. But as I said previously, if the number is insignificant, then there's really no problem in the first place.
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  6. #66
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    People don't drop trial roulette just because they get Tsukuyomi instead of a quick one like Cape Westwind or Chimera.
    I've seen plenty of people drop trial roulette just because they get Tsukuyomi. Or Titania. Used to happen with Shinryu a fair amount, too, but now most people outgear him so much that it doesn't matter.
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  7. #67
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    Barraind Faylestar
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    If I knew queue'ing for alliance roulette on alt jobs im leveling would land me in Tactics raids most of the time, I would just replace a daily alliance raid for literally anything else and be better off for it.

    Sorry you really want people to put up with Aver'age Mcn'u'm-pty's inability to do math at a second grade level or figure out the buttons required to strafe, I'll pass on that being an everyday thing.
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  8. #68
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Welp, got Dun Scaith last night, which was the first non-Crystal Tower raid I've got in the last 4 weeks. I queue for this daily, give or a take a day or two when I did not log on. It was also the last time I've ran this one in who knows how long. I totally forgot most of the mechanics. I used to be invincible in there; died all kinds ;p

    Without reading through the thread, even my tolerance is wearing thin for this. The 40% return rate on grade VIII materia is pretty much the only reason why I run it now. I can't even imagine how long those needing that Dun Scaith run were waiting in the queue, or any other raid other than CT or Copied Factory.

    It can't continue SE. Your roulette is NOT working as intended.
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  9. #69
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    What can really fix the current problem is to set the max ilevel sync to the max ilevel for each raid at release.
    • LotA should max at i90 instead of i130
    • ST should max at i110 instead of i130
    • WoD is good at i135
    • Void Ark should max at i210 instead of i275
    • Weeping City should max at i240 instead of i275
    • Dun Scaith is good at i275
    • Rabanastre should max at i340 instead of i400
    • Ridorana should max at i370 instead of i400
    • Orbonne is good at i405
    • Copied Factory should have a max ilevel sync of i470

    Doing this should increase even out the difficulty enough that all 10 raids should take roughly the same amount of time instead of LotA, ST and Void Ark being so easy that people would try to force them.
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraind View Post
    If I knew queue'ing for alliance roulette on alt jobs im leveling would land me in Tactics raids most of the time
    That shouldn't happen unless you didn't unlock the other raids, like me.

    I'll pass on that being an everyday thing.
    From my experience, it's not an everyday thing, though I also play as Red Mage when entering as DPS and have multiple verraise ready on demand.
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