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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    People don't drop trial roulette just because they get Tsukuyomi instead of a quick one like Cape Westwind or Chimera.
    I've seen plenty of people drop trial roulette just because they get Tsukuyomi. Or Titania. Used to happen with Shinryu a fair amount, too, but now most people outgear him so much that it doesn't matter.
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    Sturm Churro
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    White Mage Lv 100
    This idea would be worthless unless they increased the rewards given based on what alliance raid you got. As it is, in my opinion, alliance raids aren't worth doing in the first place right now, but that's besides the point. A 30 minute penalty isn't actually that bad when you would be potentially spending well over that in an alliance raid, that is prone to wipes - not because they necessarily cannot do it, but because others cannot do the mechanics or play their class to a sufficient level. However, in turn if the rewards are increased too substantially then you may get an issue where people won't ever want to do the old raids anymore either. Similar to MSQ roulette.
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    Taiga Shishi-o
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    Reaper Lv 90
    So he block the user who was nicest to him in argument.

    Figures
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
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    Lower tiered and higher tiered alliance raid would be a good idea.But to make it effective you'd need to lower the rewards for the lower tier and give higher bonus for higher tier to encourage people to engage in the higher tier one or both.
    I think though the real problem is sync down maximum ilvls need to be balanced.If people werent so overgeared in lvl 50 alliance raids they'd probably think twice about gear switching as the lvl 50 ones you'd be forced to have to do mechanics.
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    Barraind Faylestar
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    Paladin Lv 90
    If I knew queue'ing for alliance roulette on alt jobs im leveling would land me in Tactics raids most of the time, I would just replace a daily alliance raid for literally anything else and be better off for it.

    Sorry you really want people to put up with Aver'age Mcn'u'm-pty's inability to do math at a second grade level or figure out the buttons required to strafe, I'll pass on that being an everyday thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraind View Post
    If I knew queue'ing for alliance roulette on alt jobs im leveling would land me in Tactics raids most of the time
    That shouldn't happen unless you didn't unlock the other raids, like me.

    I'll pass on that being an everyday thing.
    From my experience, it's not an everyday thing, though I also play as Red Mage when entering as DPS and have multiple verraise ready on demand.
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Welp, got Dun Scaith last night, which was the first non-Crystal Tower raid I've got in the last 4 weeks. I queue for this daily, give or a take a day or two when I did not log on. It was also the last time I've ran this one in who knows how long. I totally forgot most of the mechanics. I used to be invincible in there; died all kinds ;p

    Without reading through the thread, even my tolerance is wearing thin for this. The 40% return rate on grade VIII materia is pretty much the only reason why I run it now. I can't even imagine how long those needing that Dun Scaith run were waiting in the queue, or any other raid other than CT or Copied Factory.

    It can't continue SE. Your roulette is NOT working as intended.
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    What can really fix the current problem is to set the max ilevel sync to the max ilevel for each raid at release.
    • LotA should max at i90 instead of i130
    • ST should max at i110 instead of i130
    • WoD is good at i135
    • Void Ark should max at i210 instead of i275
    • Weeping City should max at i240 instead of i275
    • Dun Scaith is good at i275
    • Rabanastre should max at i340 instead of i400
    • Ridorana should max at i370 instead of i400
    • Orbonne is good at i405
    • Copied Factory should have a max ilevel sync of i470

    Doing this should increase even out the difficulty enough that all 10 raids should take roughly the same amount of time instead of LotA, ST and Void Ark being so easy that people would try to force them.
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    Carby Adalena
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    What can really fix the current problem is to set the max ilevel sync to the max ilevel for each raid at release.
    • LotA should max at i90 instead of i130
    • ST should max at i110 instead of i130
    • WoD is good at i135
    • Void Ark should max at i210 instead of i275
    • Weeping City should max at i240 instead of i275
    • Dun Scaith is good at i275
    • Rabanastre should max at i340 instead of i400
    • Ridorana should max at i370 instead of i400
    • Orbonne is good at i405
    • Copied Factory should have a max ilevel sync of i470

    Doing this should increase even out the difficulty enough that all 10 raids should take roughly the same amount of time instead of LotA, ST and Void Ark being so easy that people would try to force them.
    I agree with all but Rabanastre. Those fights took way too long at launch and are only made tolerable by ilvl making them go faster. I’d say 370 at the very lowest.
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    I'm from 1 MS in the future.

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    Alys Isshu
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    Malboro
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    Summoner Lv 61
    I'd support adding a scaling minimum ilvl to the roulette but there's a caveat.

    How do you handle folks that hit 60/70/etc. before they've unlocked the appropriate tomestone vendor? Or even white gear vendor? Somebody who's diligent about running roulettes is going to be 60 well before they hit HW. Same with SB and ShB. Are they now doomed to the vagaries of the market board or the good will of somebody who has? Too risky IMO.

    There are two ways to handle that. The first is to use the min ilvl of the highest raid a character has unlocked. The second is to not story and region gate those vendors. As an aside having all the poetics vendors in one spot would be a huge QoL feature.
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