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    If SE's banning dataminers, can they finally go after RMT in PF?

    Just in case anyone is unaware - SE's stance, historically, has been that they will not accept any form of evidence outside of the game. Screenshots, videos, social media accounts - all of that would not be considered valid.

    SE recently superseded this rule, identifying dataminers by their social media accounts and taking action against their respective Square Enix accounts. (I guess it's a good thing those twitter accounts didn't post any screenshots of someone else's character..?)

    Well, anyways. Does this mean we can do something about all the RMT mercenaries in PF now, finally? Or more specifically, that GMs can stop ignoring reports about it and properly investigate them?
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    They should be able to but this company has some really odd priorities...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    They should be able to but this company has some really odd priorities...
    I just had a healer who teleported into first boss in dungeon and killed it in 1 second and it has been made possible thanks to last patch changes or something like that.
    The prorities are pretty weird indeed. xD
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    The bans likely have a lot to do with the death threats related to the world first clear for the newest Ultimate than anything else. I doubt SE is going to start revamping their approach to everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    The bans likely have a lot to do with the death threats related to the world first clear for the newest Ultimate than anything else. I doubt SE is going to start revamping their approach to everything.
    The hell? Death Threats? Sounds like SE should be doing more than just banning if they have identified these accounts.

    It's sad and equally terrifying that the same kind of people capable of stabbing and killing over a chicken sandwich are playing our lovely mmo.

    *goes back to her bubble*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    The hell? Death Threats? Sounds like SE should be doing more than just banning if they have identified these accounts.

    It's sad and equally terrifying that the same kind of people capable of stabbing and killing over a chicken sandwich are playing our lovely mmo.

    *goes back to her bubble*
    Oh yes, those people was crazy over that popeyes chicken sandwiches...... (I wonder what the hell are in those things to make them crave for more...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    The bans likely have a lot to do with the death threats related to the world first clear for the newest Ultimate than anything else. I doubt SE is going to start revamping their approach to everything.
    So in response to threats, they act in favor of the clearly unhinged individual(s) and promote that as a functional method of communication?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    The bans likely have a lot to do with the death threats related to the world first clear for the newest Ultimate than anything else. I doubt SE is going to start revamping their approach to everything.
    No, those guys are apparently just fine. We just can't have people being more informed than SE would like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    No, those guys are apparently just fine. We just can't have people being more informed than SE would like.
    Its kinda sad. Those that went out of their way to post death threats will probably not have anything happen to them (and some posted on reddit that those were mostly JP players..) while those that use the datamined information to train a fight and to use callouts with another forbidden device while streaming it live will also not be punished..but those that just simply look at the data that is already on our devices are now...even with evidence from outside the game..

    But of course streamers might generate more players so its seemingly fine to ignore them using forbidden stuff..either be strict with everything or turn a blind eye to all of these..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    SE recently superseded this rule, identifying dataminers by their social media accounts and taking action against their respective Square Enix accounts. (I guess it's a good thing those twitter accounts didn't post any screenshots of someone else's character..?)
    To be fair, we don't know what evidence they used for this situation. There may have been a link posted in game from the individuals that connected the game accounts to outside sources. It's a bit different if someone ties themselves to an outside source from in game vs someone outside of the game claiming to be them.
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