Thread: [Request] Add Lv.60+ Squadron OR Trust dungeons for SB leveling deadzone

But can't you just... like... do the dungeons normally? I understand with some stuff you may want to see it first for yourself without any pressure, but it is an MMO. You're not meant to be avoiding queues. And doing trusts and squadrons won't teach you the nuances of playing.

Originally Posted by Doozer

But can't you just... like... do the dungeons normally? I understand with some stuff you may want to see it first for yourself without any pressure, but it is an MMO. You're not meant to be avoiding queues. And doing trusts and squadrons won't teach you the nuances of playing.

But I hate people. I just play MMOs to be able to avoid them.

Originally Posted by Tint

But I hate people. I just play MMOs to be able to avoid them.

I'll assume that's a joke.

Originally Posted by Doozer

But can't you just... like... do the dungeons normally? I understand with some stuff you may want to see it first for yourself without any pressure, but it is an MMO. You're not meant to be avoiding queues. And doing trusts and squadrons won't teach you the nuances of playing.

I leveled all my jobs to 80 until a few weeks ago and the gap from 61-70 was honestly the worst. So many runs with randoms..and so many runs with horrible playing or rude people. It was enough that I did countless of runs of HoH inbetween (but its boring and sadly there are enough people that are annoyed when you use the items you gathered mostly yourself on stuff they dont like even though it makes the run faster...) but I was so happy when I finally reached 71 (70-71 was mostly done with fates) and I only ran the MSQ roulette each day on top of doing the rest with the trusts.

I am a solo player and hate dungeons with randoms. I would have never leveled the jobs up if it was all with randoms.

Originally Posted by Jybril

Plus Trusts were mainly added to alleviate DPS queue times.
It just so happens a lot of people use them for any job role though.

Even if you're happy to play with other players, but want to level trusts (I want scenario mode back ), keeping them raised evenly means you have to do half your runs as tank so Thancred can be left out of the party. Otherwise he's needed every time.

Originally Posted by Alleo

I leveled all my jobs to 80 until a few weeks ago and the gap from 61-70 was honestly the worst. So many runs with randoms..and so many runs with horrible playing or rude people. It was enough that I did countless of runs of HoH inbetween (but its boring and sadly there are enough people that are annoyed when you use the items you gathered mostly yourself on stuff they dont like even though it makes the run faster...) but I was so happy when I finally reached 71 (70-71 was mostly done with fates) and I only ran the MSQ roulette each day on top of doing the rest with the trusts.

I am a solo player and hate dungeons with randoms. I would have never leveled the jobs up if it was all with randoms.

I havent played HoH in a long time. Being using MSQ roulette to level my alts. I dont mind randoms players sometime but like you, I am basically a solo player.

Originally Posted by Doozer

But can't you just... like... do the dungeons normally? I understand with some stuff you may want to see it first for yourself without any pressure, but it is an MMO. You're not meant to be avoiding queues. And doing trusts and squadrons won't teach you the nuances of playing.

I already mentioned it, but why would they add the Trust system and cover every single dungeon for 71+ if they thought that was an issue? They obviously added it for a reason, so why wouldn't that same reason apply for the Stormblood leveling gap? That's my whole point.

The excuse that "And doing trusts and squadrons won't teach you the nuances of playing." is a terrible reason to bring up when Palace of the Dead and Heaven on High exist, and what is recommended for people to do. At the very least Squadrons/Trust put you in actual dungeon situations.

And just as a real example for why not doing the dungeons normally, when I queued for Leveling Roulette on SMN it was over a 25m wait. That in itself would be an entire dungeon run if I could queue instantly.

Now imagine DPS queues for leveling dungeons when it's not a roulette. You are simply wasting time when you could be instant queue solo given all the other examples between Squadrons and Trust.

It's simply the fact that for whatever reason this option isn't available for the Stormblood gap comparatively to the rest of the game. It just doesn't make sense.

Originally Posted by zeth07

The excuse that "And doing trusts and squadrons won't teach you the nuances of playing." is a terrible reason to bring up when Palace of the Dead and Heaven on High exist, and what is recommended for people to do. At the very least Squadrons/Trust put you in actual dungeon situations.

IMO nothing in the game really teaches anything so I agree with you here. At the same time you have to pay way more attention with trusts and squadron than you have with real players because with others (especially if you are the DD) you can be carried through the whole dungeon and die to everything without consequences. If you die with the NPCs that fight is over and you have to start it again. Of course one could AFK between the bosses and I have used that with trusts to take a breather when I was leveling it all up. But as soon as the bosses are there you have to be on your toes.