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Thema: Dear Healers

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  1. #1
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    Avatar von JBee
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    Aranna Aran
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    Malboro
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    Gelehrter Lv 33
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    lmao what a nice piece of a fanart to summarize all of this
    So next time, as a tank, stay in the middle in that healing zone, and let the tank adds frontal the entire raid and wipe everyone.

    Gotcha.
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  2. #2
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    Avatar von Deceptus
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    The Goblet - 16th Ward, Plot 55
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    Deceptus Keelon
    World
    Behemoth
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    Weiser Lv 90
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    So next time, as a tank, stay in the middle in that healing zone, and let the tank adds frontal the entire raid and wipe everyone.

    Gotcha.
    That whooshing sound? That's you missing the point. The point of that comic is how his entire group is spread all over to Timbuktu, the other healer is dead, and people are wondering why they don't get healed. His tank is INSIDE his healing range. I'd imagine it's a DPS complaining about no healing.

    Regardless, in that instance, I'm going where the tank goes and if no one else follows: If they die, they die.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  3. #3
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    Avatar von JBee
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    Aranna Aran
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    Malboro
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    Gelehrter Lv 33
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    That whooshing sound? That's you missing the point. The point of that comic is how his entire group is spread all over to Timbuktu, the other healer is dead, and people are wondering why they don't get healed. His tank is INSIDE his healing range. I'd imagine it's a DPS complaining about no healing.

    Regardless, in that instance, I'm going where the tank goes and if no one else follows: If they die, they die.
    I'm sorry, you must be mistaken. No whooshing sound here. You should perhaps go back to the original post and see how they are talking about this moment in this fight... Unless you want the tanks to cleave the raid, they better well not be standing in the middle. That comic is very much representing how they can't be everywhere at once, and a lot of people are out of their range....

    But fact is, you can't be a healer standing in the middle of that area in that part of the fight and expect anything else. It's like lighting your clothes on fire and complaining you're warm. I like this artist's comics - seen them for quite some time. But in this case, no, they are just showing their lack of knowledge of the fight or their stubbornness.

    Granted, it's a strange part of the fight. 3 groups, 2 mobs to fight. No real accepted way to deal with it. If there were, or if there were three tanks instead of two, something, wouldn't be an issue.
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  4. #4
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    Avatar von Enla
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    Gridania
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Gelehrter Lv 70
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    I'm sorry, you must be mistaken. No whooshing sound here. You should perhaps go back to the original post and see how they are talking about this moment in this fight... Unless you want the tanks to cleave the raid, they better well not be standing in the middle. That comic is very much representing how they can't be everywhere at once, and a lot of people are out of their range....

    But fact is, you can't be a healer standing in the middle of that area in that part of the fight and expect anything else. It's like lighting your clothes on fire and complaining you're warm. I like this artist's comics - seen them for quite some time. But in this case, no, they are just showing their lack of knowledge of the fight or their stubbornness.

    Granted, it's a strange part of the fight. 3 groups, 2 mobs to fight. No real accepted way to deal with it. If there were, or if there were three tanks instead of two, something, wouldn't be an issue.
    Or you know they were using visual metaphor to explain the limits of the healer's range and the fact that their party was spread out. It looks less like an endorsement of 'I'm staying in the middle, get cleaved losers' and more 'I have to run between these two points because my party is incapable of watching where our resident tank has gone and I'm getting blamed for their outright stupidity'. Which, frankly, is fair. It's why almost every healer who runs that instance has to adopt a mentality of 'if they die, they die' to any DPS who decides to attack the opposite add of the party tank. Could they have gotten that across more clearly? Certainly. However I really don't at any point get the sense that the artist is endorsing staying in the middle, more the futility of the entire situation.
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  5. #5
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    Avatar von Iscah
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    Aurelie Moonsong
    World
    Bismarck
    Main Class
    Beschwörer Lv 90
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    I'm sorry, you must be mistaken. No whooshing sound here. You should perhaps go back to the original post and see how they are talking about this moment in this fight... Unless you want the tanks to cleave the raid, they better well not be standing in the middle. That comic is very much representing how they can't be everywhere at once, and a lot of people are out of their range....

    But fact is, you can't be a healer standing in the middle of that area in that part of the fight and expect anything else. .
    The comic doesn't say anything about where the tank should stand.

    The clear message I'm seeing is "please make sure the entire party stands around one tank so the healer can move to a position where everyone is within healing range at once."

    The healer is clearly trying to position themselves at the midpoint of where all the other party members are standing - which is the ineffective middle of the arena because the others are too spread out, not because they chose it.
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