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    ReviaInfantry's Avatar
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    Revia Pedites
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Tanking Goliath...as WAR. Not solo but majority (including 6 of my pt member) go to other tank.

    30% mit + nascent on first laser and raid wide with 2 chaos punts.

    Rampart + reprise then EQ for second laser and raidwide.

    Holmgang the third and my buddy got killed. No way to nascent my way out.
    Popped thrill.

    Then they finished up the other tank, other pts tank voke from me, get the laser and point it at my healers (and most of the alliance)
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    Tyrael Firenze
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    Scholar Lv 80
    I appear to be the opposite of quite a few healers here in that I will adjust my position if I need to in order to heal team members. It is my primary job, after all, so if I saw a tank rapidly losing health, I’d shimmy right on over there to heal them if I am able to. Admittedly, being scholar means I can leave eos to babysit the rest of the team!
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    Tabi Fox
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by RubixCube View Post
    I appear to be the opposite of quite a few healers here in that I will adjust my position if I need to in order to heal team members. It is my primary job, after all, so if I saw a tank rapidly losing health, I’d shimmy right on over there to heal them if I am able to. Admittedly, being scholar means I can leave eos to babysit the rest of the team!
    Most healers will do that in the cases of adds needing to be kept apart or aoes to be un-stacked.

    For my statement at least I'm referring to general things like dungeons and raids that don't require players to be very spread out due to adds or such. There's no reason for say a bard or a black mage to be on the edge of the arena out of aoe healing range if no movement dependent mechanic is happening.

    Chasing people who are grossly out of position around can easily take quite a few gcds that would've ideally been used on dps instead.

    The morale of the story: Be mindful of your position in relation to your teammates. Everyone has a shared responsibility to reposition as needed, not just tanks and healers.
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    Madhin Sari
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman View Post
    I don't chase people around to heal them. keeping track of 7 children can be more trouble then its worth. In the case of adds I focus on the tank(player) since the co-healer can babysit the other 5 since they're not supposed to take damage past basic raid aoe. In the event the other healer wants the tank I've no qualms doing the other.

    As a healer that tries to generally position in a central spot to reach everyone if you're outside of my range its your fault. On spread out adds I just do what I can, but peeps gotta remember there's no heal that's the size of the entire arena so be mindful.
    I only heal sometimes and I NEVER had a Co-Healer that did anything. Q.Q
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    Junpei Iorii
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman View Post
    Most healers will do that in the cases of adds needing to be kept apart or aoes to be un-stacked.

    For my statement at least I'm referring to general things like dungeons and raids that don't require players to be very spread out due to adds or such. There's no reason for say a bard or a black mage to be on the edge of the arena out of aoe healing range if no movement dependent mechanic is happening.

    Chasing people who are grossly out of position around can easily take quite a few gcds that would've ideally been used on dps instead.

    The morale of the story: Be mindful of your position in relation to your teammates. Everyone has a shared responsibility to reposition as needed, not just tanks and healers.
    I love when range will be 60 miles in Kentucky while I'm trying to heal them. It's so annoying!
    Have you ever played with full ranges? The horror...
    That said, I love when you put down Scared Soil or Asylum and they move to it. Does my heart good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman View Post
    I don't chase people around to heal them. keeping track of 7 children can be more trouble then its worth. In the case of adds I focus on the tank(player) since the co-healer can babysit the other 5 since they're not supposed to take damage past basic raid aoe. In the event the other healer wants the tank I've no qualms doing the other.

    As a healer that tries to generally position in a central spot to reach everyone if you're outside of my range its your fault. On spread out adds I just do what I can, but peeps gotta remember there's no heal that's the size of the entire arena so be mindful.
    I only heal sometimes and I NEVER had a Co-Healer that did anything. Q.Q
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    Dizzy Fox
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    It's a raid of random people, if people don't know how to adjust to fix these situations on a personal level this is what happens.

    Example: Knowing dps and tank split up often times on this fight because there's no "left or right first for alliance X"

    Either adjust by telling your alliance to start on one tank, watch which one the dps go to, moan and groan at healers to heal you better, or play a tank with better invuln/personal healing(cough paladin) in this raid.

    Those are the only likely ways to fix anything, if you can't trust others then work around them.

    And of course, tanks aren't born leaders... just because they initiate a fight.
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    Talu Seekku
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    Balmung
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    Havn't seen this happening in the nier raid. I always get heals while tanking whether im main tank or not.
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I stay in the center and can usually heal both the tank and the dps who go to the other Goliath. Just gotta shimmy around the AoEs from time to time.
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    Makeda Fyah
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Goliath tanks... is this the part where two add tanks spawn on opposite corners and we split between them?

    I've noticed many times that I get 3 tanks on one and 0 on the other... or my whole group goes to one marked for it... except for our tank... who goes to the other one...

    I notice things like that on several ad spawns in there... even when we put down the A, B, C marks - either a healer or a tank goes with the wrong group. In the chaos I've done it a few times myself... so it's more when it becomes a pattern that it gets annoying.

    I need to try tanking that place... except my GNB didn't need any of the gear and my SCH was the least geared 80 I had when it came out... I wonder how many other people are using it for that - gearing their alt jobs. we've had gear at or better than it for so long now even people like me that are NOT doing savage raids generally don't need the gear from it for our main jobs. For people actually in savage the Alliance raid is a waste of time except for on that 'alt job' they rarely use otherwise... So there's kinda bound to be some confusion...
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    Last edited by Makeda; 12-01-2019 at 08:02 AM.
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