Incentivize More People to Queue for Leveling Dungeons

[Tlamila]

Treat your groups better. If I run Trust, it isn't for the rewards or efficiency. It's already far slower than a real group. You can throw whatever exp, tomes, materia that you like at leveling dungeons, but I'll likely avoid it because a Trust will never tell you to kill yourself, tell you to uninstall, kick you to bring a friend in, complain you pull too fast, pull too slow, pull for you, refuse to play properly, threaten to report you for advice, refuse to dps as healer, refuse to heal as healer, leave tank stance off and so on.

The incentive is there to run dungeons. Other players are the disincentive.

Trusts get more appealing the more I party up with randoms. More often than not, I get a dysfunctional party that only cares about speeding through content, even if we have a first timer in the group. No talk about mechanics to watch out for, nobody who is rusty or unsure speaking up. Just tanks sprinting ahead and initiating fights while others are in a cutscene and party members eating aoes while leaving the healer to work double and burn their mp on raising the party.

I could just be having obscenely terrible luck, though.

Completely and utterly this. I will run roulettes with friends if they're around (I mean a complete group) otherwise I'm running with trusts. It saddens me that I feel this way - I've played MMOs for 20 years - but other people are the least pleasant aspect of this game currently

All of this. DF groups are the reason why I quit twice, Trust is the reason why I came back this time. No amount of rewards will make me choose DF over Trust.

If I do levelling roulettes is either with a premade or for very low level classes.

Honestly, if some people prefer Trusts there's a good reason, since they're already calibrated to be less efficient than playing with humans, so if someone chooses them regardless of that...yeah.

[Siete]

Treat your groups better. If I run Trust, it isn't for the rewards or efficiency. It's already far slower than a real group. You can throw whatever exp, tomes, materia that you like at leveling dungeons, but I'll likely avoid it because a Trust will never tell you to kill yourself, tell you to uninstall, kick you to bring a friend in, complain you pull too fast, pull too slow, pull for you, refuse to play properly, threaten to report you for advice, refuse to dps as healer, refuse to heal as healer, leave tank stance off and so on.

The incentive is there to run dungeons. Other players are the disincentive.

Wow I never had all those stuff to happen.
I did get randomnly kicked by a group of friends who was AFKing through the whole Castrum once though, but it was once.

[Allooutrick]

Trusts get more appealing the more I party up with randoms. More often than not, I get a dysfunctional party that only cares about speeding through content, even if we have a first timer in the group. No talk about mechanics to watch out for, nobody who is rusty or unsure speaking up. Just tanks sprinting ahead and initiating fights while others are in a cutscene and party members eating aoes while leaving the healer to work double and burn their mp on raising the party.

I could just be having obscenely terrible luck, though.

[AngelCheese77]

I like to use my Squadron once I unlocked it. I can take my time, map it out, kill all the mobs and get all the treasures ... and not have 3 other random people breathing down my neck to "hurry up" and just speed run through everything.

[Metalwrath]

Personally ill take leveling roulette over trusts any day of the week.
Sure you have the queue factor but i can do other things during that time and even the worst of dps (including ice mages) will do more dps than the trusts.And atleast you get some small marginal hope with duty finder that you will get dps that aoe unlike the trusts who's design system is so limited that they can only single target mobs.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I'd rather do roulettes over trusts, but I feel little incentive to do either when I can cap my weekly tomes without it. Five days of Expert is all that takes. Give me a good reason to do Leveling, and I'll be there, but right now I don't see it.

[Sated]

If they add incentives for group content I think it should be on encouraging players to find others to play with regularly so they don't have to rely on DF filler in the first place, rather than just finding ways to fill the queue with more bodies.

Like bonuses for queuing with FC - playing with friends should be the most rewarding, literally and figuratively.

[Metalwrath]

If they add incentives for group content I think it should be on encouraging players to find others to play with regularly so they don't have to rely on DF filler in the first place, rather than just finding ways to fill the queue with more bodies.

Like bonuses for queuing with FC - playing with friends should be the most rewarding, literally and figuratively.

And how exactly would that beenfit new players exactly?Which is what leveling roulette was designed for.To help fill queues for newer players trying to progress older dungeons.
Your suggestion is to encourage players to queue as a group and slow down queue times for new players as a result.

[Sated]

And how exactly would that beenfit new players exactly?Which is what leveling roulette was designed for.To help fill queues for newer players trying to progress older dungeons.
Your suggestion is to encourage players to queue as a group and slow down queue times for new players as a result.

New players are capable of joining FCs, and I think they should be encouraged to find groups to play with and make friends. I guess I don't see how this wouldn't also benefit them more than the current system unless they refuse to play with others, in which case that's a choice but not the general point of an MMO. Solo options would still exist and are super convenient, but I think the incentive should go to groups.

[Jojoya]

And how exactly would that beenfit new players exactly?Which is what leveling roulette was designed for.To help fill queues for newer players trying to progress older dungeons.
Your suggestion is to encourage players to queue as a group and slow down queue times for new players as a result.

It's pretty rare that I'm getting a new player bonus when I do leveling roulette so I doubt queuing as a partial group is slowing things down for them overall. What's more likely to be slowing things down is a lack of sufficient tanks or healers to fill roles, or the instance servers being so full the number of groups being formed is throttled (which seems to be happening a lot lately).

The best way to speed up the queue for new players is to group with them before queuing for the dungeon instead of random queuing solo trying to get a match with a new player.