Stuck in the mindset of FFXI, you can't see the highest potential of this MMO

[Vaen]

It seems like too many people on these forums are stuck on the things they liked from FFXI, and they are demanding that FFXIV must copy/paste FFXI's systems exactly how they were.

It seems that we are forgetting we can take the good from FFXI and leave the bad. We will never see the great potential a Final Fantasy MMO has unless we can accept innovation and encourage the dev team to try things differently than how they were in the past.

Examples:

-People miss how the NMs were in FFXI. I agree with them, FFXI's persistent world-spawned NMs are much more interesting than the ones we have currently in FFXIV.

There's a thrill to hunting NMs in FFXI because when and how they spawn is more complex than it is in FFXIV. But this does not mean we have to import FFXI's time-consuming, frustrating "lotto spawns" and lengthy respawn timers into FFXIV. Here's just one example of how they could bring back the thrill of hunting NMs without all the time-wasting, frustration, and low drop rates:

I'm all for adding changes to NMs, but how about some NEW ideas that are FUN? Such as, having players gather rare items from mobs and gathering points around the world and then using them to "summon" NMs at special areas around the game world. This cuts out the waiting time while still making things more complex and interesting, and it even adds to the player economy by giving us new things to acquire and sell

-People remember how level sync was abused to level fast in FFXI. This does not mean that "level sync" has to behave the same way in FFXIV. Don't oppose the implementation of level sync outright because you remembered it in FFXI one way, instead, support a NEW version of level sync that balances the game.

If they did it right they would work like this:

Level 46 player wants to play with her level three 30 friends, so she joins their group, level syncs, and now she has the same amount of power as she did at lvl30. Now they can all group together and do toto-rak and all get exp and it will still be challenging, but the level 46 player's exp is somewhat reduced so her progression to 50 stays at the same rate.

They can give the higher level player gil/seals/special item rewards for level syncing to help lower level players fill their groups, and this will act as incentive despite the reduced EXP.

Level sync should only allow players of disparate levels to play together and be rewarded. It shouldn't allow anyone to level up faster.

These are just a few examples of how people need to break outside the box that FFXI put their mindset in, and how just a little bit of creative thinking can result in potential solutions that are better than just copy/pasting FFXI.

I'm not saying that my ideas are the best and maybe they're not realistic and would never work, but at least I'm trying to address the problems that prevent many people from enjoying FFXI and FFXIV.

Next time, instead of asking or expecting the dev team to copy-paste things from FFXI, please try to think of some way they could build on FFXI's positive aspects and create a new MMO experience that works better for everyone beyond just the hardcore former FFXI players.

[Wynn]

I think the problem goes both ways because you have some random topic that involves XI and immediately you get two divisive camps. Camp A says "OMG this was so much fun..." while camp B says "Ugh that was horrid."

Camp B immediately lumps Camp A into a group of people just wanting things from XI because they were in XI. Then, on the other hand, Camp A lumps camp B into people who just blindly hate XI so they hate anything remotely connected to it. Neither group is right and the players often swap camps depending on the topic.

The simple fact is, some people like some things and other people like other things.

[Hypnotic13371337]

its FFXIV, NOT FFXI-2 guys :l

[Dragon]

I'm actually in agreement with this.

[NadienKirisame]

its FFXIV, NOT FFXI-2 guys :l

You didn't even read what was stated you saw the words FFXI and you attacked... Try to read first and not everyone that mentions something from XI is asking for FFXI-2...

You humans attack attack attack... it is almost as if that is all you can do... I swear...

The cat is bemused =-.-=

[ThePatriarch]

As possibly the biggest perpetuator of FFXI being copy pasted to enhance this game, I like this thread.

I agree with your NM/HNM suggestion.

I think a system that required LS participation in farming items to spawn a specific monster would be awesome. Teamwork to farm a set number of items to be used to summon forth an awesome HNM, which in turn will take everyone on in the ls to assist in taking it down. While this strays from the method of FFXI, i think it would be a cool system and worth trying out.

[Dragon]

You didn't even read what was stated you saw the words FFXI and you attacked... Try to read first and not everyone that mentions something from XI is asking for FFXI-2...

You humans attack attack attack... it is almost as if that is all you can do... I swear...

The cat is bemused =-.-=

You get 'em mew!!

[Volsung]

Nothing wrong with taking the good from FFXI, in the end the developers get to decide what was beneficial and what was not. Some people just see XI and have bad memories, too bad for them. Some people want too much from XI, too bad for them. Ive seen great posts get shot down simply because XI did it, thats a terrible reason. Ive seen terrible fanboy stuff get rated up.

As someone said above me, it goes both ways

[Dragon]

Nothing wrong with taking the good from FFXI, in the end the developers get to decide what was beneficial and what was not. Some people just see XI and have bad memories, too bad for them. Some people want too much from XI, too bad for them. Ive seen great posts get shot down simply because XI did it, thats a terrible reason. Ive seen terrible fanboy stuff get rated up.

As someone said above me, it goes both ways

Did you read the OP, at all?

[Hypnotic13371337]

You didn't even read what was stated you saw the words FFXI and you attacked... Try to read first and not everyone that mentions something from XI is asking for FFXI-2...

You humans attack attack attack... it is almost as if that is all you can do... I swear...

The cat is bemused =-.-=

i read the post, its about how people say that they like the things from XI and how they would like them to be in xiv and the OP is trying to say to have an open mind for the changes in XIV, to embrace different things instead if copy pasting stuff from the older game.

you cats always insinuate the meanest things i swear