Ishgard restoration in the long term

[RyuSaarva]

actually the rewards are too cheap, hardcore crafters got all rewards very fast and they also missed the fates, if materia was usefull this expansion then it would have been ok.

[tdb]

The hardcore crafters are probably spending entire days crafting items for the turn-ins. Maybe they even have friends bringing them materials. There's 31500 scrips worth of unique rewards (including all unlockables and one copy of each furniture, but excluding materia), so if you can craft one item per minute it'll take about ten hours of solid crafting to get everything. Totally doable for a hardcore player who can dedicate all their time to that single task. Not so much for someone who can only play a few hours per day and also has tons of story to do.

The rewards are also pretty expensive compared to similar ones from Rowena. For example the orchestrion rolls at the Firmament are 600 and 1200 scrips. Rowena sells (different) orchestion rolls for 200 yellow crafters' scrips. You also get up to 300 scrips from a single return from Rowena; five times the amount of the best skybuilders' returns. So effectively those rolls are about 20 times cheaper.

Materia VII costs about the same amount of scrips, but again at Rowena you get much more scrips from a single return. So much more that a single turned in item buys one materia, with some scrips left over. At the Firmament you need to turn in four items to get almost enough scrips.

Materia VIII at least seems to be somewhat balanced. It's 300 scrips at the Firmament vs. 500 white scrips at Rowena. The best turn-ins for white scrips give 172 scrips, which is three times the amount for skybuilders' scrips, but they also require more different materials and have more stages in crafting so I can't readily tell which method takes more effort to get one piece of materia.

The one reason I can think of that would justify some of these prices is that many of the items have been available from other content earlier. So perhaps SE doesn't want to devalue the original method of acquisition too much, especially in cases where that content is still live (Heaven-on-High).

[Avenger]

I was only slightly disappointed to miss two fates (middle of the night) and also be locked out of another before they banned wanderers. Losing the xp is a bit disappointing, but I realized that the scrip was equivalent to about nine lv80 turn-ins.

In any case Ishgard is vastly superior to moogle tomestones.

[MistakeNot]

The hardcore crafters are probably spending entire days crafting items for the turn-ins. Maybe they even have friends bringing them materials. There's 31500 scrips worth of unique rewards (including all unlockables and one copy of each furniture, but excluding materia), so if you can craft one item per minute it'll take about ten hours of solid crafting to get everything. Totally doable for a hardcore player who can dedicate all their time to that single task. Not so much for someone who can only play a few hours per day and also has tons of story to do.

The rewards are also pretty expensive compared to similar ones from Rowena.

The one reason I can think of that would justify some of these prices is that many of the items have been available from other content earlier. So perhaps SE doesn't want to devalue the original method of acquisition too much, especially in cases where that content is still live (Heaven-on-High).

Keep in mind that all the rewards for the Ishgard restoration are meant to be earned over the course of a year or so - it will probably take all of 5.x before it is finished.
So prices need to be high to prevent everyone from getting all the rewards after a week or two - else there would not be anyone available to work on the later stages of the restoration.

[Avenger]

Keep in mind that all the rewards for the Ishgard restoration are meant to be earned over the course of a year or so - it will probably take all of 5.x before it is finished.
So prices need to be high to prevent everyone from getting all the rewards after a week or two - else there would not be anyone available to work on the later stages of the restoration.

This is an interesting idea. I think I would still work on it because I want our world to progress to the next stage. Also getting into a fate might be nice.

[Tlamila]

Keep in mind that all the rewards for the Ishgard restoration are meant to be earned over the course of a year or so - it will probably take all of 5.x before it is finished.
So prices need to be high to prevent everyone from getting all the rewards after a week or two - else there would not be anyone available to work on the later stages of the restoration.

I really hope that's the case and that they don't add more rewards instead! Because at this rate it will take me forever to get anything. And just the mount is 8000+ which indeed will take me very long.

[Jojoya]

I really hope that's the case and that they don't add more rewards instead! Because at this rate it will take me forever to get anything. And just the mount is 8000+ which indeed will take me very long.

It's not that bad if you're doing the level 80 turn ins. If you're trying to get it with the level 20-60 turn-ins, then yes it will take a while. But you'll be leveling up as you do it so you can start making the higher level turn ins as well.

I do expect more rewards to get added as additional stages are added, though not nearly as many as we started with.

[tdb]

It's not that bad if you're doing the level 80 turn ins. If you're trying to get it with the level 20-60 turn-ins, then yes it will take a while. But you'll be leveling up as you do it so you can start making the higher level turn ins as well.

Even with the level 80 items it's going to take well over 100 items to get that mount. That equals at least two hour of solid crafting. Gathering thousands of materials is also going to take a while, or cost a couple million gil if you buy them from the MB. It's not quite forever, but still a significant effort, and a very repetitive and boring one.

[Tlamila]

It's not that bad if you're doing the level 80 turn ins. If you're trying to get it with the level 20-60 turn-ins, then yes it will take a while. But you'll be leveling up as you do it so you can start making the higher level turn ins as well.

I do expect more rewards to get added as additional stages are added, though not nearly as many as we started with.

Yeah I've been doing it with lvl40 turn ins so with two full days of crafting+gathering +1 fate I got about 1800 scrips.
Sure, I could level to 80 right away and gear up and do lvl 80 turn ins but leveling so fast would ruin crafting completely for me. I have a few 70+ crafters though, so I could do lvl 70 ones I guess, though I can't imagine how long it takes to gather the mats, since with low level ones at least you can gather 4 per attempt.

Not saying "cater to me", just hoping I can do it all slowly overtime, instead of rushing.
(I'm also halfways through ShB msq so I wouldn't have access to lvl80 gathering nodes anyway, now that I think about it)

[Jojoya]

Even with the level 80 items it's going to take well over 100 items to get that mount. That equals at least two hour of solid crafting. Gathering thousands of materials is also going to take a while, or cost a couple million gil if you buy them from the MB. It's not quite forever, but still a significant effort, and a very repetitive and boring one.

I know how much work it is. Between my 3 level 80 characters, I've crafted enough items to buy 2 Gorillas, 3 Lean emotes, a full set of the Craftsman glamour, one of the Orchestrion rolls, and a couple of the Aetheryte tickets. I've still got about 6500 scrip left between my 3 characters. I also did all my own gathering (which took far longer than the crafting did). I'll be doing more over time to get the other things I still want.

The key is "doing it over time". None of this has to be completed now. If you're finding it boring, break it up into small sessions so you get it done over a month or two instead of in one sitting. If you're still finding it unenjoyable, you always have the option of buying what you want from other players. Only 6 items can't be traded (the ones that were originally from Diadem plus the Firmament Aetheryte ticket).